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QUOTE(larrymik @ Nov 16 2005, 12:08 PM) i'm still waiting for my upgrade from last night to show up. submitted a ticket already. [right][snapback]571394[/snapback][/right] Me too! 8 hours now and upgraded with egold, but we are not the only ones, so don't worry 12DP will fix it! 
QUOTE(chacma @ Nov 16 2005, 11:57 PM) Does anyone know what time of the day 12DP usually pay? Can I still expect a payment today or will it probably come tomorrow? Thanks [right][snapback]571368[/snapback][/right] You will get paid within 7 business days. It could be anytime of the day my friend. I've received payments when I least expected them. Those are the best!!!
If u want to get rid of egold, u can alway sell to me, i can offer attractive rates than exchanger. thanks.
QUOTE(manula @ Nov 16 2005, 01:10 PM) Cool. I'm just trying to see whether it's really worth it using e-gold rather than Stormpay. Help me here. 1) I buy gold from icegold (pay 6126 and get $6000 worth of gold in my e-gold account) 2) go to 12dailypro and upgrade my account with e-gold. Cost is $6000. Or is there any additional commission? 3) three weeks later I get paid by 12dailypro. They send $8640 into my e-gold account. e-gold charged 0.75 to receive the payment. Question: how do I get this money (or just the profit - 2640) back into my bank account? Can e-gold send it straight to me or do I need to go though another vendor, who will buy the gold off me and send me the cash, thus costing me more money in commission? I hope this conversation is not too off-topic. I'm only asking so that when 12daily pro is back online here in Australia I can do the upgrade. Thanks again [right][snapback]569905[/snapback][/right]
new upgrade and again smoth surfing
Another smooth surfing day
12DP rocks 
I just got my FIRST referral !!!  WHOHOO! QUOTE(Mgbutka @ Nov 17 2005, 01:00 AM) I just got my FIRST referral !!! WHOHOO! [right][snapback]571524[/snapback][/right] Woah... Congrats... and the start of many more...
QUOTE(Mgbutka @ Nov 16 2005, 12:00 PM) I just got my FIRST referral !!! WHOHOO! [right][snapback]571524[/snapback][/right] Congratulations. I noticed I got 2 more referrals who joined today. .gif)
I had some investment money in e-gold to play with and after looking at many different options, I came to the conclusion I could take a high risk in "those other" programs and possibly loose it or I could upgrade again in 12DailyPro. I upgraded! To
 With all the others!
Excellent decision!
QUOTE(Lauderdale Investor @ Nov 16 2005, 09:02 AM) Congratulations. I noticed I got 2 more referrals who joined today. [right][snapback]571529[/snapback][/right] suprised to see you here with 12 daily..lol when i was talkin to you about it a lil over a month ago you said not your thing..lol.. QUOTE(celestialmoon @ Nov 17 2005, 01:06 AM) I had some investment money in e-gold to play with and after looking at many different options, I came to the conclusion I could take a high risk in "those other" programs and possibly loose it or I could upgrade again in 12DailyPro. I upgraded! To With all the others![right][snapback]571543[/snapback][/right] You made a really wise choice I'd be investing more if I had more... getting greedy here  Anyone not? 
QUOTE(Lauderdale Investor @ Nov 16 2005, 09:02 AM) Congratulations. I noticed I got 2 more referrals who joined today. [right][snapback]571529[/snapback][/right] And their numbers?
upgrade expired today
upgraded with more
Hihi, anyone been paid? Can i ask when is the exp date? and the payment date?
So that other members can take as ref. Help is greatly appreciated. Thanks Cheers
Hello:
Not yet a member with 12DailyPro. If someone here: Has been a member since the beginning, uses Stormpay, and feels he/she can do a great job of sponsoring, please pm me. Thanks
My referral from earlier today is 108xxx
Almost 110000! That is awesome
Paid as usual
 it became a habit in seeing "mylifecliks" in e-gold history
Yes this is a very good program, I was in this when the name was my life cliks.
When they changed the name and I had to sign in again. I did not do that. I regrett it today. But better late then ever.
pm you,i'm surely an very early 12dp memeber
12dp ROCKS QUOTE(prettymoon @ Nov 16 2005, 01:21 PM) Hello: Not yet a member with 12DailyPro. If someone here: Has been a member since the beginning, uses Stormpay, and feels he/she can do a great job of sponsoring, please pm me. Thanks [right][snapback]571583[/snapback][/right]
Are Members still having a problem with e-gold Upgrades? Mine have always been instant. But people are posting in 12DP that they are not now?
QUOTE(vin_dost @ Nov 16 2005, 09:17 AM) upgrade expired today upgraded with more [right][snapback]571573[/snapback][/right] Was your Upgrade instant? QUOTE(Lennyw @ Nov 16 2005, 12:41 PM) Are Members still having a problem with e-gold Upgrades? Mine have always been instant. But people are posting in 12DP that they are not now? [right][snapback]571627[/snapback][/right] I upgraded today through e-gold and it was instant I've read on their site that it could take awhile to post e-gold upgrades, but it has always been instantaneous for me. 
Done surf today
QUOTE(Lennyw @ Nov 16 2005, 01:41 PM) Are Members still having a problem with e-gold Upgrades? Mine have always been instant. But people are posting in 12DP that they are not now? [right][snapback]571627[/snapback][/right] Yes my upgrade was made with egold over 10 hours ago and is still not showing up in my 12dp account. Someone else has been waiting 17 hours. Not worried tho' cos 12dp will fix it like they always do!
QUOTE(Mazzie @ Nov 16 2005, 12:56 PM) Yes my upgrade was made with egold over 10 hours ago and is still not showing up in my 12dp account. Someone else has been waiting 17 hours. Not worried tho' cos 12dp will fix it like they always do! [right][snapback]571660[/snapback][/right] bummer 
That's odd about the egold thing. Just send them a ticket. I updated before the temporary downtime. I used e-gold and my upgrade was instant. Good luck.
QUOTE(spartandiva04 @ Nov 16 2005, 02:04 PM) That's odd about the egold thing. Just send them a ticket. I updated before the temporary downtime. I used e-gold and my upgrade was instant. Good luck. [right][snapback]571678[/snapback][/right] Yeah ticket was sent hours ago, still waiting for a reply, but they will be busy cos there is loads of people this has happened to. My downline just upgraded a few minutes ago and theirs was instant as usual, so it has got to have had something to do with the server issues in the early hours of this morning. They will fix it so I am not worried. 
I am now in 12DP, I can't believe I waited this long to join. I actually joined a few days ago with $996. Looks good so far.
QUOTE(Pipster @ Nov 16 2005, 12:16 PM) And their numbers? [right][snapback]571570[/snapback][/right] The last member is 108551. QUOTE(ArcticSteve @ Nov 16 2005, 08:28 PM) I am now in 12DP, I can't believe I waited this long to join. I actually joined a few days ago with $996. Looks good so far. [right][snapback]571723[/snapback][/right] Welcome aboard 
Wow, this is one busy thread!!
I can never keep up to it..... 
welcome , i cant believe there are still MMG memebers who are not in 12dp
enjoy your 12dp journey QUOTE(ArcticSteve @ Nov 16 2005, 02:28 PM) I am now in 12DP, I can't believe I waited this long to join. I actually joined a few days ago with $996. Looks good so far. [right][snapback]571723[/snapback][/right]
Surfing completed in five minutes. Upgraded before surfing with egold and it showed up immediately, no one hour wait.
Even after site being down and 30 pages of gloom and doom, I had a referral do a $2400 upgrade this morning. He upgraded because he has faith in the program and does not want to be included in the large group who six months from now had wished that they joined six months ago.
paid and upgraded again
QUOTE(Mazzie @ Nov 16 2005, 12:56 PM) Yes my upgrade was made with egold over 10 hours ago and is still not showing up in my 12dp account. Someone else has been waiting 17 hours. Not worried tho' cos 12dp will fix it like they always do! [right][snapback]571660[/snapback][/right] One of my referrals did an upgrade yesterday at 10am and his egold has nt gone through yet. i suggested he send in a ticket. Another of my referrals did an egold upgrade ths morning and it was instantaneous. it wil all be resolved soon.
Smooth surfing again today after 8:00 AM CDT!
Just after midnight lots of strange things were happening!
QUOTE(Lauderdale Investor @ Nov 16 2005, 02:03 PM) One of my referrals did an upgrade yesterday at 10am and his egold has nt gone through yet. i suggested he send in a ticket. Another of my referrals did an egold upgrade ths morning and it was instantaneous. it wil all be resolved soon. [right][snapback]571796[/snapback][/right] Do referral commissions get paid instantly or do they get paid along with your next payout?
12dp super!!!!
QUOTE(pribilla34 @ Nov 16 2005, 02:15 PM) Do referral commissions get paid instantly or do they get paid along with your next payout? [right][snapback]571814[/snapback][/right] With your next payout.
QUOTE(jeff1967 @ Nov 16 2005, 02:16 PM) With your next payout. [right][snapback]571820[/snapback][/right] thanks
Heard something about someone who got $16.567 last week
 He must have a great downline 
I've got 3 new commission today from my downline
My next payout will bring me above $400 from commission This is 1 of the thing wat i like about 12dp~ big commission and importantly they are honest program!  12dp 12p!~
I upgraded last night and it still hasn't appeared in my account. I submitted a ticket. How long does it take them to reply?
Paid for the 10th time...loving 12DP!!!!
I would like to respond to "manulas" post on page 767 regarding the sustainability of this program. People get hung up on the "12% a day" Your ROI is not even close to 12% a day. Let me explain. For examples sake, if you put in $1000 and surf for 12 days, you will earn a payout of $1444{$1000 of that is your initial investment or principal} which leaves you a profit of $444--not to shabby but wait, you now have to wait for up to seven days to get your money so really we are looking at a nineteen day period to earn a 44% profit. $44% divided by 19 days = 2.31% return in investment per day-- a far cry from 12%.
Past autosurf history shows a 4% a day program that lasted around eight months and was sustained by primarily new money coming in at an astounding rate. I believe they had over 300,000 members when it crashed around July of this year. Why did it crash and burn? I would say for primarily three reasons: 1} 4% a day has proven to be unsustainable because the owners of these sites cannot go out and invest members money and earn any way near 4% a day which now leaves it up to new members money to subsidize their earnings. If membership slows down or their site goes down for an extended period of time , the program goes belly up 2} Excessive compounding killed 4Daily and time will tell if it proves to be the undoing of StudioTraffic. Compounding is a double edged sword for administrators of surf sites. Early in their programs they encourage members to compound because it reduces their payouts and they can go out and earn money on your money. Unfortunately, it eventuallly catches up with every program Like the Fram oil filter commercial says, "Pay me now or pay me later" Guess what, Studio Traffic members who compounded for months or years{myself included} now want our money and they don"t have enough to go around{my opinion}. 3}Poor administration will kill a program before it gets off the ground. Why do you participate in the programs that you do? Let me guess, they communicate with members and they pay their members on time, right? In summary , why is 12DailyPro sustainable for the long haul, 1}a 2.3% rate of return supported by phenomenal membership growth and additinal sources of income. Charis actually has a business plan in place to ensure the longevity of this program. 2}No compounding allowed. Members are forced to reinvest their funds again to get paid again. They can use their profits to increase their upgrade level but it is done with "new" money and not money already in the system like Studio Traffic. Why did StudioTraffic reduce their upgrade expiration from 12 months to 10 months? Are they starving for some new money? 3}12DailyPro has one of the best administrators on the net. The way the site is set up is pure genius and she pays like clockwork. On top of that e-mails are answered and problems are fixed. What a fantastic concept--make your members happy and your business will thrive and grow!
i wish i had great downline too.. my upgrades xpire in 3 days time.. cant wait for that day.
QUOTE(kranman @ Nov 16 2005, 08:58 PM) I would like to respond to "manulas" post on page 767 regarding the sustainability of this program. People get hung up on the "12% a day" Your ROI is not even close to 12% a day. Let me explain. For examples sake, if you put in $1000 and surf for 12 days, you will earn a payout of $1444{$1000 of that is your initial investment or principal} which leaves you a profit of $444--not to shabby but wait, you now have to wait for up to seven days to get your money so really we are looking at a nineteen day period to earn a 44% profit. $44% divided by 19 days = 2.31% return in investment per day-- a far cry from 12%. Past autosurf history shows a 4% a day program that lasted around eight months and was sustained by primarily new money coming in at an astounding rate. I believe they had over 300,000 members when it crashed around July of this year. Why did it crash and burn? I would say for primarily three reasons: 1} 4% a day has proven to be unsustainable because the owners of these sites cannot go out and invest members money and earn any way near 4% a day which now leaves it up to new members money to subsidize their earnings. If membership slows down or their site goes down for an extended period of time , the program goes belly up 2} Excessive compounding killed 4Daily and time will tell if it proves to be the undoing of StudioTraffic. Compounding is a double edged sword for administrators of surf sites. Early in their programs they encourage members to compound because it reduces their payouts and they can go out and earn money on your money. Unfortunately, it eventuallly catches up with every program Like the Fram oil filter commercial says, "Pay me now or pay me later" Guess what, Studio Traffic members who compounded for months or years{myself included} now want our money and they don"t have enough to go around{my opinion}. 3}Poor administration will kill a program before it gets off the ground. Why do you participate in the programs that you do? Let me guess, they communicate with members and they pay their members on time, right? In summary , why is 12DailyPro sustainable for the long haul, 1}a 2.3% rate of return supported by phenomenal membership growth and additinal sources of income. Charis actually has a business plan in place to ensure the longevity of this program. 2}No compounding allowed. Members are forced to reinvest their funds again to get paid again. They can use their profits to increase their upgrade level but it is done with "new" money and not money already in the system like Studio Traffic. Why did StudioTraffic reduce their upgrade expiration from 12 months to 10 months? Are they starving for some new money? 3}12DailyPro has one of the best administrators on the net. The way the site is set up is pure genius and she pays like clockwork. On top of that e-mails are answered and problems are fixed. What a fantastic concept--make your members happy and your business will thrive and grow! [right][snapback]571890[/snapback][/right] Love your logic, and, I also believe, that 12DP, will go on, and, become the new standard for Autosurfs Sorry about that they already are
Fast and smooth surf! Credited for Nov 16.
QUOTE(future @ Nov 17 2005, 02:26 AM) Heard something about someone who got $16.567 last week He must have a great downline [right][snapback]571844[/snapback][/right] 
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