Pension World Wide – PWW4you

Get your pension insurance paid right away!
$75,000 US$
Immediate payout after closing of program

-One time fee of $50 US$
-One time payout of $75,000 US$ for persons below 67 years
-commission program for 7 levels, per person $3,000 US$
-immediate bonus of $20 US$ shared between level 1 ($3) and level 2 ($7)
-program is limited to 150,000 members
-secure yourself as many shares of $75,000 US$ as you want

http://www.pww4you.com/?c=en&id=149699

Oh wow, ok.... another one !?

ewealth, what's the total count reached so far?

Oh wow!!! I looked at the site and this just doesn't make any sense to me. So you pay $50 for a pension and have to wait for total membership to reach 150,000???? Is that $ or people??? Either way, HOLY MOLY!!

I'm thinking not.....
Just my 50 cents

The nice thing about PWW is that you can purchase as many policies as you want. ICC recently opened up only 1,000 upgraded positions to members and all 1,000 were purchased in a little over a week. So you can make a $225,000 pension plan with PWW for only $150. You don't have to continue to advertise or talk someone else into the program for it to work for you.

Ok so you get this fabulous pension for pennies on the dollar and after so many people join in you get a huge sum of money??? Sounds like a HYIP to me where the initial ones get money from the ones coming in later.... I don't know about this one. Sure would like to see a little more information posted here though.

The first ones don't get paid until the full 150,000 policies are sold. Remember that doesn't mean that 150,000 people need to join. I'm sure many people will buy 2 or 3 policies.

Immediate payout after closing of program.

ICC is a similiar program. It only has a maximum of 10,000. Even though ICC has been open only a few months, ICC is 66% full. Only 3,400 to go.

PWW is new. Watch the program for a while. Don't join until you are comfortable.

There is a referral bonus. A little marketing and the $50 could be returned in no time.

If you think the people that joined ICC with $35 will recieve $40,000 in a month or two, I have a bridge for sale

These programs are such scams!

Here are my thoughts:
It cost me $50 dollars to participate in this program:
If it takes 5 years to reach our goal and get paid $75,000 dollars
that means IT would be $15,000 dollars per year.
That is worth the wait. However, I am going to work harder, to help that 5 year date
to change it to a lesser date and year. Go PWW! Go...

these programs are scams....good luck anyways




By the way....look at these details:

Using 24 day old cached answer (or, you can get fresh results).
Hiding E-mail address (you can get results with the E-mail address).

Registration Service Provided By: SHINJIRU TECHNOLOGY SDN. BHD.
Contact: +03.92846932

Domain Name: PWW4YOU.COM

Registrant:
Virtus Offshore Investment Co.
Virtus Offshore Investment Co. ********@voichaven.com)
Suite 2007 20th Floor
The Century Tower
Ave Ricardo J. Alfaro
Panama City
Panama,-
PA
Tel. +603.91541210

Creation Date: 26-Oct-2006
Expiration Date: 26-Oct-2007

Domain servers in listed order:
ns12.ipnames.net
ns11.ipnames.net


Administrative Contact:
Virtus Offshore Investment Co.
Virtus Offshore Investment Co. ********@voichaven.com)
Suite 2007 20th Floor
The Century Tower
Ave Ricardo J. Alfaro
Panama City
Panama,-
PA
Tel. +603.91541210

Technical Contact:
Virtus Offshore Investment Co.
Virtus Offshore Investment Co. ********@voichaven.com)
Suite 2007 20th Floor
The Century Tower
Ave Ricardo J. Alfaro
Panama City
Panama,-
PA
Tel. +603.91541210

Billing Contact:
Virtus Offshore Investment Co.
Virtus Offshore Investment Co. ********@voichaven.com)
Suite 2007 20th Floor
The Century Tower
Ave Ricardo J. Alfaro
Panama City
Panama,-
PA
Tel. +603.91541210

Status:ACTIVE

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AND THEN:

Using 4 day old cached answer (or, you can get fresh results).
Hiding E-mail address (you can get results with the E-mail address).

Registration Service Provided By: SHINJIRU TECHNOLOGY SDN. BHD.
Contact: +03.92846932

Domain Name: INVESTMENTCAPITALCORP.COM

Registrant:
Virtus Offshore Investment Co.
Virtus Offshore Investment Co. ********@voichaven.com)
Suite 2007 20th Floor
The Century Tower
Ave Ricardo J. Alfaro
Panama City
Panama,-
PA
Tel. +603.20969221

Creation Date: 27-Mar-2006
Expiration Date: 27-Mar-2008

Domain servers in listed order:
ns10.ipnames.net
ns9.ipnames.net


Administrative Contact:
Virtus Offshore Investment Co.
Virtus Offshore Investment Co. ********@voichaven.com)
Suite 2007 20th Floor
The Century Tower
Ave Ricardo J. Alfaro
Panama City
Panama,-
PA
Tel. +603.20969221

Technical Contact:
Virtus Offshore Investment Co.
Virtus Offshore Investment Co. ********@voichaven.com)
Suite 2007 20th Floor
The Century Tower
Ave Ricardo J. Alfaro
Panama City
Panama,-
PA
Tel. +603.20969221

Billing Contact:
Virtus Offshore Investment Co.
Virtus Offshore Investment Co. ********@voichaven.com)
Suite 2007 20th Floor
The Century Tower
Ave Ricardo J. Alfaro
Panama City
Panama,-
PA
Tel. +603.20969221

Status:ACTIVE

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Ok 5 years for $75000??? So what happens to all the money that's placed with PWW in the meantime? I'm thinking of a Steve Miller song line "GOOO TAKE THE MONEY AND RUN". I don't think you'll ever see your end result....I'm sure the money will be long gone by then...

Best of luck with it though......

They are registered in the same location with the same admin. LOL

ICC promises to pay out 40k to 1000 members or 40 Million

PWW promises to pay 75K to 150000 or 11 BILLION 250 Million: Give me a freaking break!!! Who would ever believe that?

Thanks for showing me to PWW, that cofirms my suspicion about ICC and I will just pass on this one.

I like those odds....maybe if I started this program. Those numbers seem legitimate to me....don't they???

Hey a moment...........

the program closed to 150.000 menbers who paid 50$.

So 7.500.000$.

Why they don t leave with the money??

Simply a scam!

If it looks like a scam....smells like a scam.....dresses like a scam...it's probably a scam. And this seams to shout SCAM!!!!

hmmm... i think you're right

It has all the features of a scam indeed but the sad thing is that we can 'only' proof this when they don't pay. And as the payout date is so far away.... they can gather a lot of money in the meantime from people that don't read forums like this one

Yeah I know. The sad thing is IF what they've said as far as their membership goes is correct, there are already A LOT of people that will probably loose out on their money. That's why DD on anything you put money into is a MUST!!!

Hi everybody!
Two things about this kind of program.
The deal itself is real.
I've once been working for insurances and I know that this really works.
I also have detailed background information about PWW.
I'm not allowed to share this info.
Believe it or not, it's your choice.

But, we NEVER know if the owners (of any site, not only this one) take the money and run !

Henny

Excuse me...I cant open the site...
Www.pww4you.com

Looks like server problems.

Site is back mupegasus


Henny

I've also been involved in off line private placements that paid pretty close to what PWW is promising, if others had a little more knowledge of the finanical world and the sum total of their experience wasn't coming on forums like MMG and pretending to know something they would know very well that private placements happen all the time.

Are there things about PWW that concern me? Sure there are I could make a list, but the point is for such a small fee what's the loss? I’ll admit to playing "games" online. In my case stuff like this to me it's a game, if it does pay off I'm happy as can be, if it doesn't pay off well I lost a couple hours pay. BUT the biggie to me is, if it does pay and I sat out assuming I knew something I didn't that would be the only thing that would make me pissed.

So bottom line if you do some real DD and have stuff that you want to share I believe everyone including myself would be happy to see it.

I'm also a member of ICC. When ICC pays off in April, PWW will take off.

YEP! me too. i am also involved in gpp... they will explode also. i can't jump in this one this week... but count me in!

Not sure why so many are so fast to cry scam? PWW has given us no reason to believe it is not legit. And that whois information in no way identifies a scam company. I've seen several incidents where the whois information is similar or the same for multiple companies. Virtus is what's known as a registrar, they are in the business of registering domain names for people, generally speaking off shore. That is the sum total of their involvement, if you did a whois on any one of thousands of businesses you would find their Registrar to be Virtus, some of those businesses would be scams some would not, but who one uses to register their domain name has no bearing on anything. The name in the registrar info is the name they use as all domains when registered need to have contact info filled out.

The point is... but in this case it meant zero. There are other things you can check as well, but lets face it if somebody is savvy enough and wants to cover their tracks well enough finding them can take a long time if it happens at all. More to the point if wih any financial knowledge one would know that private placements like the two sites in question are offering happen all the time and that does NOT mean that these two aren't scams.

Bottom line doing DD on anything you put your money into is a very good idea, but you really need to understand what the heck you're reading and what it actually means before you start running around screaming scam...

Is PWW a scam? I have no idea, maybe they will turn out to be, but this information really proves nothing except someone dorsn't really know how the internet works.

I wish everyone would be slower to cry scam because it is statements like that that bring honest programs to their knees. I have no reason to believe PWW is not legit, so I will disregard those posts and continue promoting this program. No good will come by crying scam. Have some faith.

TOTALLY AGREED!!! to tell you the truth it's quite irritating! whenever i see negative posts, i tend to ignore them, anyways... especially when it comes from the same person.

to me, it's worth the $35-$50 to see if it actually does come to fruition. if it does, then AWESOME, and if it doesn't, then okay... NEXT! in the case of "the other" program... i actually "invested" $600 and gifted a bunch of people. yes that's alot... but geez, the "potential" rewards are totally worth the gamble to me!!! JMHO!

Bonue Referral Program 7 levels:

The following is only an example: You decide to join the program. You invite 3 people and all of them decide to join as well. These 3 people are also motivated and invite also 3 person. If any of these persons also join the program, you would get the following results:
3 + 9 + 27+ 81 + 243 + 729 + 2,187 = 3,279 people to join your team.

3,279 X $3,000 = $983,700 in bonuses alone.

Is that worth $50?

vintage "pie in the sky"

I thought that address looked familiar.
http://www.web-life.org/vb/showpost.php?p=...mp;postcount=72

Same company was behind longroadprofits.com and compact surfing aka Altus Financial Services Inc. For those who don't remember, compact surfing was a ponzi scam that appeared around the time 12DailyPro collapsed.

And they were behind GOLDWAYSURF.COM http://www../vote_display.ph...1574&sort=3
And HYIPWORLDCUP.COM http://hyips-analysis.com/HYIP937.php
And this : DDL-WAREZ.CC http://whois.domaintools.com/ddl-warez.cc

I'm sure there's more to be found.

Can someone PM me with the current member count

Aloysius this is NOT the company behind all of the them!
This is only where all of them have been registered!
Believe and think what you want. This is a free world!
I know, what I know!
Yes, there are lots of scams out there.
And yes almost all of them have hidden registrations.
But not every company with a hidden registration is a scam!!
Did you ever check Dave's registration for his 12by12daily.net?
I've checked it - no details!
There are lots of good sites with hidden registrations!
There are also scams with 'real registrations'.

But again you are free to believe and think what you want.


Henny

can anyone tell me how they plan on paying out so much money on just a 50 dollar "investment"??? TIA

You can find all the explanation on their site!
Take a look at 'The Plan'.

I know it sounds unbelievable, but it is possible!

PWW is New and only has 450 at the present time.

r these things done by them getting a life insurance policy on all of the people that signed up??? i think they get a life insurance policy written for u and then buy it from u for the amount u r to be paid, then they do what they will with it, is that how these things work??? just wondering

great program,wait for admin reply

So is this how this works? I'm also curious. I'd just like a little more explanation.

You can find all the explanation on their site!
Take a look at 'The Plan'.

Take a little time to look around the site. It will answer most of your questions.

Ok so on "The Plan" area of the website they state they take out a 300,000 pension on each member and out of this, there is 180,000 immediate cash, out of which they pay the 75,000 to the members along with a number of other items. Now what happens if they decide not to pay out this 75,000 to it's members? Since the plan is taken out in each members name, wouldn't that person be responsible for paying the premiums on this pension plan? Seeing that of the 180,000 immediate cash that's available, 84,000 is for immediate premium payment, wouldn't the member then be responsible for this premium? Am I way off base on that?

The average “Joe" doesn’t buy a Pension Plan for the face amount, they purchase via small payments (based on their life expentancy) and at the end of that time their policy has that face value. When payments stop, the policy closes. So No, you would not be responsible for the premium.

The backers will pay a lump sum, have to carry the time for payment, not us. It's quite possible that some policies will not mature for 35 or more years, and many will mature in under 5 years.

The backers may not be planning on holding the policies, they might in fact mortgage them off, either way it's NOT any financial burden to the original policy holder (us) and we will have been paid long before that.

There will be paperwork sent you. If you have any questions, before you sign anything, take it to a local lawyer to satisfy yourself.

AND remember if you can not afford to lose $50, don’t join this program.

Like say what says:
I’ll admit to playing "games" online. In my case stuff like this to me it's a game, if it does pay off I'm happy as can be,
if it doesn't pay off well I lost a couple hours pay.

Somebody in another forum misused and misinterpreted my first post in this thread.
As I can't edit it to change it and don't have the possibility to delete it I want to make one thing clear.
Yes, I do believe that this possibly will work like some other familiar sites.
Yes, Im in already and give it a try.
As I'm not the admin of this site I can only say that I do believe that it will work.
Yes, I do have some background information about this one.

I do trust myself 1000% and nobody else.
I still do believe in others and hope that they are as fair and honest as I am.
I know that there are site owners that do not play around with their users/members.
That's why I don't give up to believe that there are still good, reliable and honest admins on the net!

I'm tired of all this negativity in most of the places and before I'm tiping some not so nice words here I use this one !
I do have a motto: Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
And yes I've lost money but I've also made money on the net.
And I do hope that this one will gain me money!


Henny

Can you point me to a company/web site that has this same "hidden" registration that is not a scam?


No I haven't look at this. What is it a HYIP ponzi scam? Autosurf ponzi scam? Money doubler ponzi scam? Should I look into this?


Maybe. I think I've only seen one or two that were not a ponzi scam. One was a list of ponzi scams, the other had something to do with objecting to fluoride in the water.

Back to this pension thingy scam. Has some "backers"? Willing to front up 200K or some such nonsense? My guess is the people behind this are German or from one of the Germanic or similar countries.
http://www.pww4you.com/login.asp?c=en

So professional they spell password wrong. Oh, and it's "Turing" not "Touring".

actually, these programs r legit because i have seen one done in person, not internet, my dad joined one in the united states and was paid 50k, whether or not their intentions here r to do the same thing, i dont know, but i do know it can be done and i will be in the ride if/when it is done

Aloysius, I agree with you about the nature of these SC MS

mcdonae, yes they are legit.
And I know about offline contracts like that too.

what is a pension insurance??? i havent seen it done with "pension insurance"

That's a good question! Typing "pension insurance" into google gives several hits that are relevant to different countries. Which one is relevant to this particular scam?
The web site has a German feel to it, so this link may be useful:
http://www.bmas.bund.de/Englisch/Navigatio...-insurance.html
Basically this is the state pension scheme in Germany.

As the values on this scam's web site are in USD may be this will be helpful:
http://www.frbsf.org/publications/economic.../el2003-25.html

There are other articles for Finland, Czech Republic, Hungary, Slovenia and other countries. A re-occurring theme is that they are mostly government backed pension schemes. Now compare these with what this scam is offering. Does the pension insurance scheme for Slovenia have a number of mysterious backers willing to front 200K? Is the pension insurance scheme for Finland limited to 150K members? Does the pension insurance scheme for the Czech Republic have a commission program for 7 levels?

thanx for the help, just looking to see what it is, all i know is that this can be done with life insurance, which is what this very well might be, i have seen it done with life insurance, but not "pension insurance"

Hi guys,

A friend of mine tipped PWW off in an email today. From my understanding, every policy/contract costs $50, and everytime the contracts/policies bought exceed 150 000, we will get $75 000 for each policy we bought. And you can buy as many contracts/policies you want, e.g. 5 x $50 to get 5 x $75 returns. I dont know thats a huge amount. But I really like the referral plan. Correct me if I am wrong.

Goodday!

though i dont fully understand ur question, i do know that the policy does not cost 50 dollars, that is the cost of paperwork and legal fees and some pocket money

Another 'pension plan', what's new

do you all notice this pension plan have the same registrant name with investmentcapitalcorp ?