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Wikianswers is not much of an authoritative source. And I see there are conflicting answers posted there as well.
QUOTE(chicosan @ Nov 16 2007, 07:35 PM) [snapback]4494457[/snapback] EagleOne I found the links along with this answer....... http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_Reverse_Pension_Plan So nothing from a financial newspaper or magazine, just from an article in wikipedia. Seems rather strange since the wiki article says there is a lot of information out there, but nothing in any financial publications quoted or referenced; nor can they be found. Just a quick digression regarding PIPS. Your take and what I have been reading are quite far apart. Let's just say that the information I have uncovered does not support your statements. But since this is a non-issue, no need to discuss further. QUOTE(EagleOne @ Nov 17 2007, 12:23 AM) [snapback]4494826[/snapback] So nothing from a financial newspaper or magazine, just from an artible in wikipedia. Seems rather strange since the wiki article says there is a lot of information out there, but nothing in any financial publications quoted or referenced; nor can they be found. It was not from Wikipedia but from Wikianswers - a very different matter, where anyone can post their opinion, not necessarily facts. QUOTE(bouchier @ Nov 17 2007, 01:03 AM) [snapback]4494871[/snapback] It was not from Wikipedia but from Wikianswers - a very different matter, where anyone can post their opinion, not necessarily facts. Thanks for the clarification, and yes I automatically thought wikipedia. I should have looked closer at the link. Still I want to check it out and see if the financial professional gave his/her name. Easy to check and see how credible their credentials are or how well-known.
No. From what I saw there was no indication that the opinion had been provided by a financial professional. As I said, there were conflicting opinions posted also.
QUOTE(bouchier @ Nov 18 2007, 12:39 AM) [snapback]4496591[/snapback] No. From what I saw there was no indication that the opinion had been provided by a financial professional. As I said, there were conflicting opinions posted also. Finally had some time to check the link out. You are correct. While giving the impression and appearance of being a financial professional, it was totally void of any substantive facts or information. Hardly what I would call a ringing endorsement for these programs. A financial expert would have given their name and qualifications, plus you would find reference in financial publications, which to date I have found none. Maybe someone else will be more astute than I have been in finding such information.
This is the latest update shown on HCI website :
"On tuesday the 20th of November, you will be able to login and manage your investments in the LDTP program, read more about HCI and much more..." QUOTE(oetemeteo @ Nov 19 2007, 03:50 AM) [snapback]4498612[/snapback] This is the latest update shown on HCI website : "On tuesday the 20th of November, you will be able to login and manage your investments in the LDTP program, read more about HCI and much more..." Whoopee! Another chance to send some money to an entity without a mailing address or offices and no visible records of having achieved anything. Not even a graduation certificate from a Florida university! QUOTE(bouchier @ Nov 19 2007, 08:20 PM) [snapback]4499387[/snapback] Whoopee! Another chance to send some money to an entity without a mailing address or offices and no visible records of having achieved anything. Not even a graduation certificate from a Florida university! I put my money deep in the ground and then i wait... soon begins a money trees to grow up. Every year in the autumn there is a harvest time to collect one million from trees. QUOTE(oetemeteo @ Nov 19 2007, 05:50 AM) [snapback]4498612[/snapback] This is the latest update shown on HCI website : "On tuesday the 20th of November, you will be able to login and manage your investments in the LDTP program, read more about HCI and much more..." QUOTE(produceguy @ Nov 21 2007, 06:34 AM) [snapback]4502140[/snapback] Sigh... Why can't they respect their own deadlines? QUOTE(moneygo @ Nov 20 2007, 07:55 PM) [snapback]4502386[/snapback] Sigh... Why can't they respect their own deadlines? QUOTE(produceguy @ Nov 20 2007, 06:47 PM) [snapback]4502470[/snapback] The login has now been enabled, but they are still working on the content for the back office QUOTE(jetpak @ Nov 21 2007, 08:57 AM) [snapback]4503571[/snapback] The login has now been enabled, but they are still working on the content for the back office In "My Investment " section, there is activity but not my own. I have referrals I don't know about or where they come from. Strange. Anyone else check their backoffice or can explain what's happening? QUOTE(produceguy @ Nov 22 2007, 10:24 AM) [snapback]4504575[/snapback] In "My Investment " section, there is activity but not my own. I have referrals I don't know about or where they come from. Strange. Anyone else check their backoffice or can explain what's happening? The same for me. My referral page has people I don't know in my downline. Moreover, I haven't made any investments here except in the pension plan but I'm supposed to have made withdrawals from my earnings per their record. When I tried to send feedback to report the errors, that function is not enabled. I'm as perplexed as you are, produceguy. QUOTE(produceguy @ Nov 21 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]4504575[/snapback] In "My Investment " section, there is activity but not my own. I have referrals I don't know about or where they come from. Strange. Anyone else check their backoffice or can explain what's happening? I'm sure the upload function for the docs will soon be available. it looks like their still working to finalise the back office before all the functions are complete.
I just received an Annual Public Report from HCI by email. I didn't know they issued these.
netinfo QUOTE(moneygo @ Nov 21 2007, 07:49 PM) [snapback]4504617[/snapback] The same for me. My referral page has people I don't know in my downline. Moreover, I haven't made any investments here except in the pension plan but I'm supposed to have made withdrawals from my earnings per their record. When I tried to send feedback to report the errors, that function is not enabled. I'm as perplexed as you are, produceguy. I've noticed the same thing. Also the referrals I'm suppose have (I signed up again under myself) do not show up and I can't login with the second user name. I will try and send them an email but I'm hoping it will resolve itself as I never received a response from any of the previous emails I've sent
Have you seen the HCI annual report?
I think this could be interpreted as "progress." Maybe things will greatly improve in the near future.
I can't download it for some reason.
QUOTE(sessi @ Nov 30 2007, 04:55 PM) [snapback]4521451[/snapback] I can't download it for some reason. Really? Well, It was kinda slow to load and you might have to wait for a bit. But it's just around 8 pages if I'm not mistaken. QUOTE(moneygo @ Nov 30 2007, 05:17 AM) [snapback]4521853[/snapback] Really? Well, It was kinda slow to load and you might have to wait for a bit. But it's just around 8 pages if I'm not mistaken. It's 8 pages of rubbish. QUOTE(bouchier @ Dec 1 2007, 09:25 AM) [snapback]4524461[/snapback] It's 8 pages of rubbish. YOUR opinion only! Time will prove otherwise. QUOTE(bouchier @ Dec 1 2007, 12:25 PM) [snapback]4524461[/snapback] It's 8 pages of rubbish. Why is it Rubbish??? Zeus QUOTE(Zeus @ Dec 1 2007, 10:44 PM) [snapback]4525146[/snapback] Why is it Rubbish??? Zeus Because it contains not one single verifiable fact - absolutely nothing. I used to work in NYC and my former colleagues have tried to find out where this mighty organization might be, without any luck. For consultants with such an alleged track record you must agree that this is extraordinary. No address, no phone, no fax. I see you live on Long Island - try checking them out for yourself. (I used to live in East Moriches) QUOTE(bouchier @ Dec 2 2007, 04:44 AM) [snapback]4525366[/snapback] Because it contains not one single verifiable fact - absolutely nothing. I used to work in NYC and my former colleagues have tried to find out where this mighty organization might be, without any luck. For consultants with such an alleged track record you must agree that this is extraordinary. No address, no phone, no fax. I see you live on Long Island - try checking them out for yourself. (I used to live in East Moriches) I actually do plan one of these days (if I can get free from work) to take a trip to the city and see if I can find them. Zeus QUOTE(bouchier @ Dec 2 2007, 01:44 AM) [snapback]4525366[/snapback] Because it contains not one single verifiable fact - absolutely nothing. I used to work in NYC and my former colleagues have tried to find out where this mighty organization might be, without any luck. For consultants with such an alleged track record you must agree that this is extraordinary. No address, no phone, no fax. I see you live on Long Island - try checking them out for yourself. (I used to live in East Moriches) There are many reputable companies and programs around the world that prefer to remain private and do not need or want thousands of people taking up their time phoning asking the same questions. True.....a lot of them are scams, but HCI25 does have a good track record that has been benefitted in the past by many investors who also want to remain private. A lot of the problems regarding programs like this, as seen in many forums, is that some have a need to DD a program to death and seem to think that everyone else should do the same. They have paid out in the past, will payout this program, and will likely continue to payout future programs. QUOTE(chicosan @ Dec 2 2007, 02:39 PM) [snapback]4526151[/snapback] There are many reputable companies and programs around the world that prefer to remain private and do not need or want thousands of people taking up their time phoning asking the same questions. True.....a lot of them are scams, but HCI25 does have a good track record that has been benefitted in the past by many investors who also want to remain private. A lot of the problems regarding programs like this, as seen in many forums, is that some have a need to DD a program to death and seem to think that everyone else should do the same. They have paid out in the past, will payout this program, and will likely continue to payout future programs. I can agree with that. I personally believe that they're legit but the truth will be when we all receive our funds. By the way, good seeing you, Chicosan. Zeus
OK people.
HCI25 is real like you and i. I have done a lot of DD before i signup to HCI. I have friends that have visited them and invest a lot of money in HCI. If any of these RPP's that can be found on the net is real,than HCI25 is 1000% real and the most important is that they are PAYING. The bad thing with them is that they limited only 3 contracts per person,not more. I they alow more than 3 contracts,trust me i will buy the rest of them(if this is meaning to get a loan or something). So dont worry all of you. Your money is safe with them. See you all, J.
thanks for the info
QUOTE(john2006 @ Dec 3 2007, 03:44 PM) [snapback]4528269[/snapback] OK people. HCI25 is real like you and i. I have done a lot of DD before i signup to HCI. I have friends that have visited them and invest a lot of money in HCI. If any of these RPP's that can be found on the net is real,than HCI25 is 1000% real and the most important is that they are PAYING. The bad thing with them is that they limited only 3 contracts per person,not more. I they alow more than 3 contracts,trust me i will buy the rest of them(if this is meaning to get a loan or something). So dont worry all of you. Your money is safe with them. See you all, J. Hey John; Thank you for sharing the information. Appreciate it. I read one blog stating HCI25 had success with past investment. Still waiting for HCI25 to allow me purchase of 2 additional contracts. QUOTE(john2006 @ Dec 3 2007, 10:44 PM) [snapback]4528269[/snapback] OK people. HCI25 is real like you and i. I have done a lot of DD before i signup to HCI. I have friends that have visited them and invest a lot of money in HCI. If any of these RPP's that can be found on the net is real,than HCI25 is 1000% real and the most important is that they are PAYING. The bad thing with them is that they limited only 3 contracts per person,not more. I they alow more than 3 contracts,trust me i will buy the rest of them(if this is meaning to get a loan or something). So dont worry all of you. Your money is safe with them. See you all, J. Wau! Something positive info for us! It ok for our mental. Lets hope its not a dream. QUOTE(john2006 @ Dec 3 2007, 12:44 PM) [snapback]4528269[/snapback] OK people. HCI25 is real like you and i. I have done a lot of DD before i signup to HCI. I have friends that have visited them and invest a lot of money in HCI. If any of these RPP's that can be found on the net is real,than HCI25 is 1000% real and the most important is that they are PAYING. The bad thing with them is that they limited only 3 contracts per person,not more. I they alow more than 3 contracts,trust me i will buy the rest of them(if this is meaning to get a loan or something). So dont worry all of you. Your money is safe with them. See you all, J. John, when did you signup with HCI25? I find it a little strange that you have been a member on MMG for a year and yet this is your first ever post on HCI25. QUOTE(jetpak @ Dec 3 2007, 02:47 PM) [snapback]4528435[/snapback] John, when did you signup with HCI25? I find it a little strange that you have been a member on MMG for a year and yet this is your first ever post on HCI25. I wonder who this could be hiding behind this poster? QUOTE(chicosan @ Dec 3 2007, 04:20 PM) [snapback]4528548[/snapback] I wonder who this could be hiding behind this poster? I don't quite understand what your insinuating chicosan. But my question is still valid. I just found it peculiar for this member coming out with such high endorsements on his very first post regarding HCI25. I am a member of HCI25 and would be delighted to know for a fact if this was the case. But given this is a public forum you just need to take on board such information with a grain of salt from a poster who has yet to establish his credibility. QUOTE(jetpak @ Dec 3 2007, 05:13 PM) [snapback]4528604[/snapback] I don't quite understand what your insinuating chicosan. But my question is still valid. I just found it peculiar for this member coming out with such high endorsements on his very first post regarding HCI25. I am a member of HCI25 and would be delighted to know for a fact if this was the case. But given this is a public forum you just need to take on board such information with a grain of salt from a poster who has yet to establish his credibility. You're probably right. I just overreacted a bit. However, we do have a couple of potential troublemakers hiding in this form.
I've emailed HCI25 support with following suggestion a few days ago:
Hi, Just like to know if HCI25 would consider members and new clients to purchase more than 3 policies (eg. up to 6 policies possibly, but nothing silly like unlimited!). That way, we may bring closure to the program much more quickly than at the current rate. Many large online RPP's are utilizing this approach and it seems to be working very well for them. It would be of benefit to all parties involved if we reach our target much sooner than later. I believe by adopting this approach we can make it happen. Would appreciate your feedback on the idea. Thanks. HCI25 response today: Hi This is actually being discussed. Please be patient. Regards Support Just wondering how other HCI25 members feel about this. Would you purchase extra policies if they do decide to introduce the idea? QUOTE(jetpak @ Dec 4 2007, 02:28 PM) [snapback]4529527[/snapback] I've emailed HCI25 support with following suggestion a few days ago: Hi, Just like to know if HCI25 would consider members and new clients to purchase more than 3 policies (eg. up to 6 policies possibly, but nothing silly like unlimited!). That way, we may bring closure to the program much more quickly than at the current rate. Many large online RPP's are utilizing this approach and it seems to be working very well for them. It would be of benefit to all parties involved if we reach our target much sooner than later. I believe by adopting this approach we can make it happen. Would appreciate your feedback on the idea. Thanks. HCI25 response today: Hi This is actually being discussed. Please be patient. Regards Support Just wondering how other HCI25 members feel about this. Would you purchase extra policies if they do decide to introduce the idea? Hi. Im interested to purchase extra policies, yes, yes! QUOTE(jetpak @ Dec 3 2007, 06:13 PM) [snapback]4528604[/snapback] I don't quite understand what your insinuating chicosan. But my question is still valid. I just found it peculiar for this member coming out with such high endorsements on his very first post regarding HCI25. I am a member of HCI25 and would be delighted to know for a fact if this was the case. But given this is a public forum you just need to take on board such information with a grain of salt from a poster who has yet to establish his credibility. About posting here this will be my first and last post here. Its up to you people if you believe or not. If you jetpak dont belive in HCI than go away and dont post here. Before you post something you must done deep DD about what you post. About credibility no one here have enough credibility to be believed. And i am member in HCI from January 2007. see you folks(and remember all i have say in my first post here is true), J. QUOTE(jetpak @ Dec 4 2007, 08:28 PM) [snapback]4529527[/snapback] I've emailed HCI25 support with following suggestion a few days ago: Hi, Regards Support [/i] Just wondering how other HCI25 members feel about this. Would you purchase extra policies if they do decide to introduce the idea? Just like to know if HCI25 would consider members and new clients to purchase more than 3 policies (eg. up to 6 policies possibly, but nothing silly like unlimited!). That way, we may bring closure to the program much more quickly than at the current rate. Many large online RPP's are utilizing this approach and it seems to be working very well for them. It would be of benefit to all parties involved if we reach our target much sooner than later. I believe by adopting this approach we can make it happen. Would appreciate your feedback on the idea. Thanks. I think I'll be OK with that though I may not necessarily buy additional policies myself. At the same time, I'd expect the usual raising of eyebrows by some who might see this as a re d flag. Chicosan, I agree that yours was an over-reaction. Not everyone posting for the first time has a hidden agenda. The guy might have been just offering an honest input. QUOTE(jetpak @ Dec 4 2007, 12:28 PM) [snapback]4529527[/snapback] I've emailed HCI25 support with following suggestion a few days ago: Can you or anyone else advise me if the "contact" page (not the "feedback" page) which has a specific "support" email address is working or not, as I just sent them an email and want to know if I'm likely to get a reply? Thank you. QUOTE(Panther2 @ Dec 5 2007, 05:36 AM) [snapback]4531722[/snapback] Can you or anyone else advise me if the "contact" page (not the "feedback" page) which has a specific "support" email address is working or not, as I just sent them an email and want to know if I'm likely to get a reply? Thank you. Panther I've emailed the support email that you mentioned, and recieved a reply a few days later . The feedback page in the backoffice is yet to be activated. QUOTE(jetpak @ Dec 5 2007, 11:00 PM) [snapback]4532721[/snapback] Panther I've emailed the support email that you mentioned, and recieved a reply a few days later . The feedback page in the backoffice is yet to be activated. Thanks Jetpak!
I can't get the site to open. Anyone else having this problem? I wanted to read the last update.
Thanks, MommyK
Had no problem logging on, mommyk.
Saw no new updates, though, other than the annual report.
Question:
When you login, and click on Member information / KYC documents / KYC-page, are you able to upload the documents? netinfo QUOTE(netinfo @ Dec 19 2007, 08:48 AM) [snapback]4560534[/snapback] Question: When you login, and click on Member information / KYC documents / KYC-page, are you able to upload the documents? netinfo
Can someone please give me a link to the program, so that I can join under someone?
Thanks QUOTE(composer @ Dec 24 2007, 05:08 AM) [snapback]4569666[/snapback] Can someone please give me a link to the program, so that I can join under someone? Thanks I just PMed you, Composer. Zeus QUOTE(Zeus @ Dec 24 2007, 08:35 AM) [snapback]4570007[/snapback] I just PMed you, Composer. Zeus |