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Justin
Attention all HCI25 members, as promised the new website is back up but is still under construction.
Please check the website for further details. smile.gif
SPGroup
Nice design,but they will paid ?
chicosan
The HCI25 website that they have up now is temporary. The new website is under construction and will likely

include securities that will make it safer.
chipin49
Go to: www.hci25.com
The site is back and you can sign-up. Check this out!!!! Let's get this sold.
Zeus
QUOTE(chipin49 @ Oct 8 2007, 07:58 PM) [snapback]4423674[/snapback]
Go to: www.hci25.com
The site is back and you can sign-up. Check this out!!!! Let's get this sold.


Yes sir, It's back like we knew it would be. So what happened to the "Peanut Gallery"??

Zeus
chicosan
QUOTE(Zeus @ Oct 8 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]4423888[/snapback]
Yes sir, It's back like we knew it would be. So what happened to the "Peanut Gallery"??

Zeus


Well, the "Peanut Gallery" is now very busy formulating the second verse of "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE", so we'll just have to wait for its release..
Zeus
QUOTE(chicosan @ Oct 9 2007, 12:54 AM) [snapback]4423938[/snapback]
Well, the "Peanut Gallery" is now very busy formulating the second verse of "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE", so we'll just have to wait for its release.. rofl4.gif


Zeus
jetpak
Looks like the members login function will be activated in Nov. Hopefully we will get an update on the members count before then.
dannyboy
QUOTE(Zeus @ Oct 8 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]4423888[/snapback]
Yes sir, It's back like we knew it would be. So what happened to the "Peanut Gallery"??

Zeus


All of these scams never use real world payment methods that can be traced to real people. Egold and ebullion are worthless and support nothing but ponzis and scams for people who want to avoid paying taxes. If a program does not accept US Postal Money Orders or Bank Wires or Visa/Mastercard or ACH then they are not worth spit. I can already see all of the whining and crying that will be going on in this thread when the truth comes out in a year or so. happy.gif
chicosan
QUOTE(dannyboy @ Oct 10 2007, 05:19 PM) [snapback]4426869[/snapback]
All of these scams never use real world payment methods that can be traced to real people.

You're sure of that, eh? In many cases YOU ARE WRONG!

Egold and ebullion are worthless and support nothing but ponzis and scams for people who want to avoid paying taxes.

That's a worthless statement and in many cases WRONG!

If a program does not accept US Postal Money Orders or Bank Wires or Visa/Mastercard or ACH then they are not worth spit.

Your opinion only!

I can already see all of the whining and crying that will be going on in this thread when the truth comes out in a year or so.

Very helpful.......NOT!

happy.gif


***************
Zeus
You beat me to it Chicosan. If it wasn't for the tough U.S. Government Regulations that are imposed on off shore investments programs with regards to American Investors, then maybe these programs would possibly consider those other payment options but thanks to the Patriot Act and other BS laws that "protect me from myself" rofl4.gif the US Government wants to track my every move financially and they do not want us Americans to invest out of the USA or to "protect our assets" because they want it all (Federal Reserves which is owned by private banks by the very wealthiest few).

DannyBoy, If you feel that this is so much of a scam, why are you here?? Last I remember reading about successful people "traits", they don't waste their time in places that's not productive for them. That means that you're losing time and money telling us your opinions that we're not interested in. We all read the website, we all understand the risks involved, we all here agreed to the terms and we all already made our respective decisions.

So...what's your point??

Zeus
zurferanders
QUOTE(Zeus @ Oct 11 2007, 06:28 PM) [snapback]4427950[/snapback]
So...what's your point??

Zeus

Maybe his point is for people like me, that have not joined the program and need some information and thoughts before we decide.
I know I'm not alone in looking in the different forums before I decide, not just looking at the programs site.
I even look in the "Closed, Inactive & Offline programs" folder so i can learn from others mistakes

But ofcourse I could be wrong
Zeus
QUOTE(zurferanders @ Oct 11 2007, 01:08 PM) [snapback]4428026[/snapback]
Maybe his point is for people like me, that have not joined the program and need some information and thoughts before we decide.
I know I'm not alone in looking in the different forums before I decide, not just looking at the programs site.
I even look in the "Closed, Inactive & Offline programs" folder so i can learn from others mistakes

But ofcourse I could be wrong


I would agree with that if Dannyboy provided some kind of evidence to support his statements. All he has been saying is that this is a scam, All these scams..., The Admin of these scams.... but no proof.

Now, I'm not saying that this is not a scam or that this won't scam you but I'm not saying that it is or it will either. Until the final bell rings and it comes time for our payout, that's when we as members will know the truth once and for all.

We already know that due diligence can still lead you to a scam (Tyco, Enron) <--- and these 2 businesses most likely used what Dannyboy claims as "Real World Payment Methods" and they still heisted a lot of people.

As I have said before, after you do your due diligence to the point that you get the answer that's acceptable to you, it will still be a 50% chance that it goes either way (scam or no scam) so that's why these 2 statements should be engraved into your brain by now:

Never Risk More Than You Can Afford To Lose

Diversify, instead of putting all your money in 1 investment

Zeus
zurferanders
QUOTE(Zeus @ Oct 11 2007, 09:16 PM) [snapback]4428208[/snapback]
I would agree with that if Dannyboy provided some kind of evidence to support his statements. All he has been saying is that this is a scam, All these scams..., The Admin of these scams.... but no proof.

Now, I'm not saying that this is not a scam or that this won't scam you but I'm not saying that it is or it will either. Until the final bell rings and it comes time for our payout, that's when we as members will know the truth once and for all.

We already know that due diligence can still lead you to a scam (Tyco, Enron) <--- and these 2 businesses most likely used what Dannyboy claims as "Real World Payment Methods" and they still heisted a lot of people.

As I have said before, after you due your due diligence to the point that you get the answer that's acceptable to you, it will still be a 50% chance that it goes either way (scam or no scam) so that's why these 2 statements should be engraved into your brain by now:

Never Risk More Than You Can Afford To Lose

Diversify, instead of putting all your money in 1 investment

Zeus

Thank you for your opinion, which I respect.
I think I will go with my gutt feeling for me and my friends who trust in me.
Have a nice day/night
LUCLEAO
QUOTE(jetpak @ Oct 9 2007, 06:24 PM) [snapback]4425038[/snapback]
Looks like the members login function will be activated in Nov. Hopefully we will get an update on the members count before then.



Hello every body

this program HCI25 Still accepting new menbers ?

when the program will be closed to new members ?

After maximum members when will be able the return of investment ?


Thanks reply
netinfo
QUOTE
this program HCI25 Still accepting new menbers ?


Yes, I think the sign-up is working, but one would have to try it out to be sure.

QUOTE
when the program will be closed to new members ?


When they reach 27,000 beneficiary contracts.

QUOTE
After maximum members when will be able the return of investment ?


If everything works like how they say, then 6 to 8 weeks after 27k contracts is reached.

Netinfo
SPGroup
QUOTE(netinfo @ Oct 13 2007, 05:36 PM) [snapback]4431288[/snapback]
Yes, I think the sign-up is working, but one would have to try it out to be sure.
When they reach 27,000 beneficiary contracts.
If everything works like how they say, then 6 to 8 weeks after 27k contracts is reached.

Netinfo


there will be more 6-8 years smile.gif
netinfo
QUOTE
there will be more 6-8 years


I hope not, but if it does pay in 6 to 8 years, then at least it ends up paying.

But, I really wish it doesn't delay more than 6 to 8 weeks. We'll see what happens.

netinfo
SPGroup
QUOTE(netinfo @ Oct 13 2007, 07:52 PM) [snapback]4431373[/snapback]
I hope not, but if it does pay in 6 to 8 years, then at least it ends up paying.

But, I really wish it doesn't delay more than 6 to 8 weeks. We'll see what happens.

netinfo


6 - 8 years only to assured all of you,the truth is they wont paid anyone in here.
netinfo
QUOTE
6 - 8 years only to assured all of you,the truth is they wont paid anyone in here.


I'll see how it goes. I've read that they paid in another project, I think the Russian one, but that was a different project, not an RPP. I'm hoping that they are professionals at these types of different projects.

netinfo
SPGroup
QUOTE(netinfo @ Oct 13 2007, 08:41 PM) [snapback]4431403[/snapback]
I'll see how it goes. I've read that they paid in another project, I think the Russian one, but that was a different project, not an RPP. I'm hoping that they are professionals at these types of different projects.

netinfo


Hi there,

Facts,they cant show us the proof who's the one that got paid in russian project,nobody claimed that he's got paid in here,also same with the winner of the car contest ! No One !

Proof is everything,all of you will see later if they cannot fulfill their payment in the 6 to 8 weeks later,This is how rpp online works,people keeping naive
netinfo
QUOTE
Facts,they cant show us the proof who's the one that got paid in russian project,nobody claimed that he's got paid in here,also same with the winner of the car contest ! No One !

Proof is everything,all of you will see later if they cannot fulfill their payment in the 6 to 8 weeks later,This is how rpp online works,people keeping naive


Member jagjag123 claims here, pg. 4 of this thread, that he's been paid in the Russian project.

Also, chicosan says on pg. 17 that this "wasn't the first project to payout and, as one would expect, they are locked by an NDA agreement, so no one will post publically"

What kind of proof are you looking for?

netinfo
chicosan
QUOTE(SPGroup @ Oct 13 2007, 09:07 PM) [snapback]4431380[/snapback]
6 - 8 years only to assured all of you,the truth is they wont paid anyone in here.


You have expressed your opinion and made your point, but as you can see nobody is taking you seriously.

Thank you for your opinion. Please allow others to form their own opinion.


QUOTE(SPGroup @ Oct 13 2007, 10:09 PM) [snapback]4431415[/snapback]
Hi there,

Facts,they cant show us the proof who's the one that got paid in russian project,nobody claimed that he's got paid in here,also same with the winner of the car contest ! No One !

Proof is everything,all of you will see later if they cannot fulfill their payment in the 6 to 8 weeks later,This is how rpp online works,people keeping naive


You obviously do not undrstand how these programs work. Every member in the Russian project was paid and because of an NDA [Non disclosure Agreement} that each member had to agree with and sign, no paid member can post anything anywhere. This is common online and offline.

It is YOU who will see later and realize that YOU missed out.


QUOTE(netinfo @ Oct 13 2007, 11:51 PM) [snapback]4431505[/snapback]
Member jagjag123 claims here, pg. 4 of this thread, that he's been paid in the Russian project.

Also, chicosan says on pg. 17 that this "wasn't the first project to payout and, as one would expect, they are locked by an NDA agreement, so no one will post publically"

What kind of proof are you looking for?

netinfo


HCI Insurance completd several projects and paid out as advertised all be it that these projects were much smaller than HCI25.

Also, I have given up posting in two other forums, RC and TG because their true agenda is obvious and posting there has NO positive effect on the RPPs that are legit and will pay out.

When the meal of crow is required, it will be fed.
traderbrasil
Following is a update of hci25 I received in my email today:

"Dear clients

Sorry for the delay regarding this update. We have been very busy sorting out all the issues regarding the changes/upgrades of our site. We hope that you
will find the new site better then the previous one. We and the IT-Staff are now working on completing the backoffice.

There has been a lot of talk on different forums on the Internet regarding our business.

We are here for the long run. We have been in this business for many years and we know what we are doing. All of our projects are running smoothly. Both
the Pension Plan and the China Project. Within a couple of weeks we will also be able to offer Leveraged Trading and other gearing projects. More on that
in the next newsletter which will be out next week.

To kickstart the new site we have decided to start a new contest. Very simple, the person that puts in most members will win a weekendtrip to Paris for
2 persons (Including hotel) The contest starts today and will continue until November 19 th.

The New York trip is still available for you to win. All you need is 12 people introduced and paid for and you will be our guest in the seminar that our
american client will hold after maturity of the pension plan. We hope to see you in New York !

Thats all for now. Keep updated in the site for our newsletter very soon. Thank you all for your patience and good faith in us.

Take care and have a nice weekend.
On behalf of Human Capital Insurance

Mr. Wolfgang Steinbad-Holst, CFO"

Regards,
Traderbrasil
moneygo
Thanks for posting that e-mail, traderbrasil. Did anyone else get it in their inbox? I know I didn't.

I'm wondering how old members could get access to the back-office when, as far as I can remember, the defunct website had no sign-up function. In fact, they did NOT have a back-office at all then.

I guess we'll have to wait for the next newsletter for more details.

sessi
Yes I got it, several times actually.
yeschile
I got the message also in my e-mail inbox. Check the e-mail that you signed up with when you joined this program. Yeschile smile.gif

nachalnik
These are ALL scams; hci25, pww4you, gpp, epF, lfp1-2, imperia,... and i am in ALL of them. ****!!! maybe i only to extra work 10eur/hour. blush.gif
chicosan
QUOTE(nachalnik @ Oct 24 2007, 07:20 AM) [snapback]4448099[/snapback]
These are ALL scams; hci25, pww4you, gpp, epF, lfp1-2, imperia,... and i am in ALL of them. ****!!! maybe i only to extra work 10eur/hour. blush.gif


It's obvious that YOU know nothing about any of them. WHY did you bother joining any of them?
moneygo
QUOTE(yeschile @ Oct 24 2007, 06:33 PM) [snapback]4447785[/snapback]
I got the message also in my e-mail inbox. Check the e-mail that you signed up with when you joined this program. Yeschile smile.gif


Hi! I've checked and it's not there. Anyway, I sent a message thru the contact form on the webste. I just want to make sure I'm still part of the data base.
dcpyke
Has anyone received a response from them recently - how long did it take?

I've been waiting on an email I sent last month. I realize that with the website change things might be slow but a month is still a long time to respond. Sent another one this week this time through their new support page. I'm hoping I have better luck this time.

dannyboy
QUOTE(chicosan @ Oct 24 2007, 02:54 PM) [snapback]4448871[/snapback]
It's obvious that YOU know nothing about any of them. WHY did you bother joining any of them?


And it is obvious that YOU chic have not invested in any of them. Whey do you even bother posting? rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(nachalnik @ Oct 24 2007, 07:20 AM) [snapback]4448099[/snapback]
These are ALL scams; hci25, pww4you, gpp, epF, lfp1-2, imperia,... and i am in ALL of them. ****!!! maybe i only to extra work 10eur/hour. blush.gif


Ponzis every one!! peace.gif You are very perceptive.
chicosan
QUOTE(dannyboy @ Oct 27 2007, 03:52 PM) [snapback]4454330[/snapback]
And it is obvious that YOU chic have not invested in any of them.

Oh, and I suppose you know that for sure.

Why do you even bother posting? rolleyes.gif
Ponzis every one!! peace.gif You are very perceptive.

Unfortunately YOU are not very perceptive. HCI25, for example, has totally paid out 2 projects already and the latest one, the largest, is due for payout very soon.

Well, the group that I am involved with, over 100, have invested in many of them and I don't intend letting someone like you who hasn't a clue, spout your uniformed nonsense.
Also, what I have invested in is none of our business.


I really doubt that you oud recognize ponzi even if you saw one.
SPGroup
QUOTE(chicosan @ Oct 27 2007, 04:32 PM) [snapback]4454415[/snapback]
I really doubt that you oud recognize ponzi even if you saw one.


Honestly,you are the one who are try scam people money ! Always keep promote Online RPP"S that never one has Paid out Yet !
produceguy
QUOTE(SPGroup @ Oct 27 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]4454572[/snapback]
Honestly,you are the one who are try scam people money ! Always keep promote Online RPP"S that never one has Paid out Yet !

wink.gif I just got an email from hci tonight. Everything is running smoothly . There were more sign-ups to report: the new total is 11,275 sign-ups. More features are to be added by admin in the near future. Stay tuned. wink.gif
haveplentybucks
Don't you think this is going a bit slow? This is one of the first online RPPs and according to many, it is kosher. Unlike many others( I don't know, perhaps unlike any other ) it promises a return of the entry fee if the project does not get completed. So what is keeping people from flocking here? I think the general craze or interest in RPP has rather waned.

have plentybucks

It looks good:http://www.devatrade.com/ref/siddhilabh
chicosan
QUOTE(SPGroup @ Oct 27 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]4454572[/snapback]
Honestly,you are the one who are try scam people money ! Always keep promote Online RPP"S that never one has Paid out Yet !


Well, at least you're consistent........consistently wrong. I have never scammed anyone!!

How do you know that no RPP has ever paid out?



QUOTE(SPGroup @ Oct 13 2007, 10:09 PM) [snapback]4431415[/snapback]
Hi there,

Facts,they cant show us the proof who's the one that got paid in russian project,nobody claimed that he's got paid in here,also same with the winner of the car contest ! No One !

Certainly EVERY member in the Russian project was paid. Does it surprise you that no one posted "paid"? They are not supposed to post anywhere.....NDA!

Proof is everything,all of you will see later if they cannot fulfill their payment in the 6 to 8 weeks later,This is how rpp online works,people keeping naive


It is YOU who will see later. You talk as though you knew everything about how legit RPPs function and I doubt that you do.
moneygo
I'm curious. Did anyone (of the old members) re-sign up on the new website? My support e-mail is still unanswered up till now.

I'm wondering how old members could log on to the back office. I have my old user name but I don't remember having been asked to create a password previously. Does anyone know how to access our account on the new website?

Justin
You can't access your backoffice yet. They said they're still working on website creation which would include the back office.
punfun
very nice scam
and pic of the fake car
hahaha
chicosan
It's about time to lock out theIP address of punnup and punfun. He/she/it doesn't provide anything worthwhile and is determined to cause trouble.
moneygo
QUOTE(Justin @ Oct 30 2007, 04:29 PM) [snapback]4458273[/snapback]
You can't access your backoffice yet. They said they're still working on website creation which would include the back office.


Thanks, justin. I finally found my username/password here, tried logging on and saw that same message.

Wish their support would be more responsive, though!
haveplentybucks
I chose to ignore all the posts of punnup but that did no good. Everyone is using his posts as quote. I like the idea of blocking out punnup and punfun's IP.But that won't but that will be useless if punnup is actually from India. In India most of us have dynamic IP.
I understand little of computers even less the intricacies of internet. someone out there please find a way of blocking him.
nextinvest
wich best luck for all
Justin
QUOTE(haveplentybucks @ Oct 31 2007, 01:15 PM) [snapback]4459808[/snapback]
I understand little of computers even less the intricacies of internet. someone out there please find a way of blocking him.

If we all just keep an eye out for the silly twat and report him immediately next time he won't last and will eventually (hopefully) tire of reappearing.

His futile posts with that nauseating approach to English grammar/punctuation are the usual identity markers for Mr. censored2.gif .

Or maybe he's still here under another name....one member comes to mind.
bote
OK! I got a burning question. I signed up for HCI25 earlier today, paid $45.00 with no problem. I followed instruction as ot how to pay for two additional beneficiaries. E-gold indicate that e-gold HCI25 used were blocked. I have send email to HCI25's support.

Anyone having problem purchasing additional beneficiaries? If not, were you given a different e-gold # that bewlongs to HCI25?

Thank you.
keithoram
QUOTE(punfun @ Oct 30 2007, 06:47 AM) [snapback]4458863[/snapback]
very nice scam
and pic of the fake car
hahaha


SAME OLD SAME OLD
EagleOne
Chicosan: Since I am new here, I have been reading the posts from the beginning. You mentioned that you stopped posting on RC and TG. Sorry to be so ignorant, but what is RC and TG? Maybe you also answered this question, but why would you stop since you are very confident in these programs? Confused.
Zeus
QUOTE(EagleOne @ Nov 11 2007, 03:17 PM) [snapback]4483131[/snapback]
Chicosan: Since I am new here, I have been reading the posts from the beginning. You mentioned that you stopped posting on RC and TG. Sorry to be so ignorant, but what is RC and TG? Maybe you also answered this question, but why would you stop since you are very confident in these programs? Confused.


These are 2 other forums that have basically call these RPP's all scams.


Zeus
EagleOne
QUOTE(Zeus @ Nov 11 2007, 01:09 PM) [snapback]4483198[/snapback]
These are 2 other forums that have basically call these RPP's all scams.
Zeus


Thanks for the reply, and appreciate your comments. By asking what is RC and TG I was wanting to know what RC and TG stood for. Sorry for not making myself understood.
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