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LifeIsGreat
I recently got approached by many of my friends to join this lamp berger MLM..just wanna ask why is this lamp berger MLM thingy so happening recently, and is it worthwhile joining, im clueless about their products. Please spill your opinions here. thanks =)
enigma
QUOTE(LifeIsGreat @ May 6 2005, 12:01 AM)
I recently got approached by many of my friends to join this lamp berger MLM..just wanna ask why is this lamp berger MLM thingy so happening recently, and is it worthwhile joining, im clueless about their products. Please spill your opinions here. thanks =)
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not too sure myself but i think they changed their comp plan... too rich for my blood n didnt fancy doing aromatherapy for the long haul so did not look further into it... also, there are better plans revolving around better products in the market:dance:
Global*Money
QUOTE(LifeIsGreat @ May 5 2005, 09:01 AM)
I recently got approached by many of my friends to join this lamp berger MLM..just wanna ask why is this lamp berger MLM thingy so happening recently, and is it worthwhile joining, im clueless about their products. Please spill your opinions here. thanks =)
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Correct me if i am wrong, Lamp berger is very expensive to join right? And i thought insurance agent cant join MLM ? tongue.gif
LifeIsGreat
lol whether it is expensive i really have no idea..lots of my friends ask me to join..and i dun think being an insurance agent cant join MLM..well..correct me if im wrong too.. smile.gif
Global*Money
QUOTE(LifeIsGreat @ May 5 2005, 06:38 PM)
lol whether it is expensive i really have no idea..lots of my friends ask me to join..and i dun think being an insurance agent cant join MLM..well..correct me if im wrong too.. smile.gif
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I am sure an insurance agent cant offically join MLM companies, if found, they will be terminate doh.gif
LifeIsGreat
thanks for the updated info, i didnt know about this blush.gif ...so what does lamp berger do besides doing aromatherophy??
Global*Money
Not very sure about that, so sorry. You might want to check the net for that.

Good luck
kof
i bought 3 of their shampoos... cost me RM65 each under special discount price, i dun see it any special at all... i bought it because i wanna giv face to my frien after his long haul taking abt it to me... haaaiiii............ felt like kenah tipu (cheated)...

i think their products only worth 10% of their price, where 50% goes to MLM level and 40% goes to the company. to me, i think they are little diablo.gif

and in order to join their MLM, u need to purchase min. RM2000 worth of products. after some thought, i gave up... waste of time...

and regarding globalmoney matter, ya... dun think u can promote mlm while being insurance agent legally, better read the TOS... or u may use anonymous identity under some1 else name lor smile.gif
LifeIsGreat
QUOTE(kof @ May 6 2005, 01:55 AM)
i bought 3 of their shampoos... cost me RM65 each under special discount price, i dun see it any special at all... i bought it because i wanna giv face to my frien after his long haul taking abt it to me... haaaiiii............ felt like kenah tipu (cheated)...

i think their products only worth 10% of their price, where 50% goes to MLM level and 40% goes to the company. to me, i think they are little diablo.gif

and in order to join their MLM, u need to purchase min. RM2000 worth of products. after some thought, i gave up... waste of time...

and regarding globalmoney matter, ya... dun think u can promote mlm while being insurance agent legally, better read the TOS... or u may use anonymous identity under some1 else name lor smile.gif
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Thanks for the info, well my friend recommended me to buy this aromatherophy thing, cost about RM250, told him i didnt have enough cash to buy, and what is a TOS?
enigma
QUOTE(LifeIsGreat @ May 6 2005, 09:38 AM)
lol whether it is expensive i really have no idea..lots of my friends ask me to join..and i dun think being an insurance agent cant join MLM..well..correct me if im wrong too.. smile.gif
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u know it is expensive when your frens dont mention cost but spin it to u as a biz proposition... it is going through a mini revival becos of some changes to the plan... s with any biz, i would advise yu to only go into a plan that u r comfortable with...

personally, i had a fren who tried out de aromatherapy thingy. the first month he used every day n promoted it as being very good for stress... the second month, cannot tahan de strain on his pocket alreadi...tongue.gif of course, since u r in insurance, that shouldnt be a problem - good comm mah harhar.gif
skywalker
just back from this LAMP BERGER office. after listening to the story, i think they r make alot of money. but not selling the product. they r asking people to join them and make $$ from the franchise.

to become a BAROM(RM9k) or C????(30k). what u need to do is find people 3 to 5 person(first level) and the 1st level will find others, then u already can get back the money u invest.

i see alot of young people joining. where they can pay by CREDIT CARD.

really can make so much $$$$. the member all is driving luxury car and stay at semiD...????????
Inspirasi
QUOTE(LifeIsGreat @ May 6 2005, 03:54 AM)
Thanks for the info, well my friend recommended me to buy this aromatherophy thing, cost about RM250, told him i didnt have enough cash to buy, and what is a TOS?
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TOS = Terms of Service

TOS = can also mean Tons Of S**T dance9bh.gif
$heart$
if you wish to know what is lamp berger and how they create money you must go to this website www.sunshine.org.tw. You will hv great discovery about the DMCL & lamp berger. dun be fooled must be wish!!! dancing4dh.gif

xerox
nice info smile.gif
kiwifruit88
Until yesterday only I realised what the heck is lampe berger. The country manager pop by to my office without giving self introduction. Initially I thought he wanna promote some interesting stuffs, with his name card and mentioned "direct sales", I was freak up. My brain is ticking how to reject his offer in a proper manner.

Surprisingly, he is seeking for a logistic solution because a new office will be setup in kuching, east malaysia. personally I don't like how this guy behave. He behaves so arrogant when he knows I seriously don't know wht product tht they are selling. He might think that his product is a top class branding and yet I know none of them. I also feel so sorry for my lack of their product knowledge had offenced him.

When the guy went off, I started to seek their product online, only i know it is a aromatherapy. Seriously this is a rich man club product, some of their vase could sell more than few grants. They claim tht their product is origin from france, ironically their HQ is a Taiwan.



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xerox
i know only after u tell us products they selling smile.gif
Heislyc
QUOTE(skywalker @ Jun 21 2005, 10:35 PM)
just back from this LAMP BERGER office. after listening to the story, i think they r make alot of money. but not selling the product. they r asking people to join them and make $$ from the franchise.

to become a BAROM(RM9k) or C????(30k). what u need to do is find people 3 to 5 person(first level) and the 1st level will find others, then u already can get back the money u invest.

i see alot of young people joining. where they can pay by CREDIT CARD.

really can make so much $$$$.  the member all is driving luxury car and stay at semiD...????????
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Sigh... Guys...

There's no point to join this company, LB, if you know you'll hardly find 5 person who have 2k+ cash, or maybe one rich person with 30K+ (one shot)

I hate to put all these words here, i'll make it short.

This LB shouldn't be called MLM company at all, they are only a LEGALLY BUILT PYRAMID ENTITY

An actual MLM company shouldn't only depends on so called PLAN and GROUP PSYCHO METHOD to invite so called PARTNERS. - whatever u name it

Think for yourself again, LB fans, its not easy to earn 2K-30K, invest the money to better choice, if you ask me, what "MLM" company not to join, LB is always at top of my list.

Just want to remind u of the truth behind...
kof
well, this is a rich man club.

i highest recommended u to join if u know a lot of "datuk" or "tan sri" rofl4.gif
Mr.noob
join rich man club? to know ''datuk and tan sri''
if know them. them give u $ issit?
i dont think so.
u should meet this ''datuk or tan sri'' in other way no by join mlm.
i know datuk. also no though mlm. is though relationship.
which more important that wht wht club.
btw many ppl know which which datuk or tan sri.
but them dont real remember u once, after other day.
depend ur own strength to earn $ is the best way. no depend on ppl.
ur no parasit. ok~!
Wong King Kuang
QUOTE(skywalker @ Jun 21 2005, 06:35 AM)
just back from this LAMP BERGER office. after listening to the story, i think they r make alot of money. but not selling the product. they r asking people to join them and make $$ from the franchise.

to become a BAROM(RM9k) or C????(30k). what u need to do is find people 3 to 5 person(first level) and the 1st level will find others, then u already can get back the money u invest.

i see alot of young people joining. where they can pay by CREDIT CARD.

really can make so much $$$$.  the member all is driving luxury car and stay at semiD...????????
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same story i heard also...does it worth??!!

QUOTE(kof @ Nov 15 2005, 11:47 PM)
well, this is a rich man club.

i highest recommended u to join if u know a lot of "datuk" or "tan sri" rofl4.gif
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Can i called u "Datuk Kof" ?hehe clapping7.gif
Ogerik
Might have trouble in seeking new downline as this MLM is in the market for quite some time. Very much like NuSkin. Except there item can range from hundreds to thousands..... sad.gif

But if you think you can make a difference, go ahead, There are lots of stuff to learn in MLM.

Bothe in the Mental side and Physical side.

Good Luck dancing4dh.gif
juno2
MLM, Lampburger? Bah.... I'll rather convert the money to egold and invest in some private programs here.
sooyeshun
Bhahahhaa...
true...buy egold then no need to work...get 144% each 12days..hahhaa
i should ask ppl pay me 30k...i invest a few cycles and pay them back principal..haha
Lampeberger wat lar...LanPA ger..

you got realtion with datuk so wat....they buy from you ..they'll be your downline...so what ...they dont work.."sleeping" downline kill you as well.

you head to LB office..what they tell you is a business...you are the boss
i was like WTF!! i'm boss?? upline is what? nonsense.
kof
QUOTE(sooyeshun @ Nov 25 2005, 05:07 AM)
Bhahahhaa...
true...buy egold then no need to work...get 144% each 12days..hahhaa
i should ask ppl pay me 30k...i invest a few cycles and pay them back principal..haha
Lampeberger wat lar...LanPA ger..

you got realtion with datuk so wat....they buy from you ..they'll be your downline...so what ...they dont work.."sleeping" downline kill you as well.

you head to LB office..what they tell you is a business...you are the boss
i was like WTF!! i'm boss?? upline is what?  nonsense.
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upline is what? your boss tongue4.gif
then what abt LamPa Office? IRD lor for u to pay TAXES biggrin.gif
Inspirasi
It's better off you buy some lamps to sell burgers by the road sides
at night and name your Burger Stall "Lamp Burger" tongue4.gif dance9bh.gif dancing4dh.gif
MerlinS
QUOTE(Inspirasi @ Nov 25 2005, 11:36 PM)
It's better off you buy some lamps to sell burgers by the road sides
at night and name your Burger Stall "Lamp Burger"  tongue4.gif  dance9bh.gif  dancing4dh.gif
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LOL rofl4.gif

This should go to the "Humor" section...

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yyapjen
QUOTE(sooyeshun @ Nov 24 2005, 02:07 PM)
Bhahahhaa...
true...buy egold then no need to work...get 144% each 12days..hahhaa
i should ask ppl pay me 30k...i invest a few cycles and pay them back principal..haha
Lampeberger wat lar...LanPA ger..

you got realtion with datuk so wat....they buy from you ..they'll be your downline...so what ...they dont work.."sleeping" downline kill you as well.

you head to LB office..what they tell you is a business...you are the boss
i was like WTF!! i'm boss?? upline is what?  nonsense.
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haha....
i agree wif wat u said.
when i attend their talk because need to give face to friend. they kept on saying rubbish thing and trying watever they can to pursuade me in joining. and it takes me hours to leave the place coz they just dun give up and come one by one in group surounding me. WTF, kept using the same word, they won't force u to join but instead wat they said and wat they act is really like forcing. furious.gif
Inspirasi
QUOTE(yyapjen @ Nov 26 2005, 03:28 AM)
haha....
i agree wif wat u said.
when i attend their talk because need to give face to friend. they kept on saying rubbish thing and trying watever they can to pursuade me in joining. and it takes me hours to leave the place coz they just dun give up and come one by one in group surounding me. WTF, kept using the same word, they won't force u to join but instead wat they said and wat they act is really like forcing. furious.gif
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Maybe they took courses in acting tongue4.gif
ryanhkn
I'm not too sure about Lamp Berger, but I myself had join Bel Air (http://www.belairworld.com/). I join for the reason of my dad, he got sinus and went through surgery/medication, and worst he still not recovered completely. So I bump into old friend of mine intro me into this Bel Air. I'm surprise to find out that the product have such a high healing power compare to the western medicine. That's why I give it a try and see the result after 1 week.

So I'm giving it a try, bought the product that worth Rm1.5k (to become a franchaisee). If it works, i will spare my time and effort to sell this and if it's not I'll just give it a past. At least my ST return is higher than this MLM thumbup(1).gif

Since this is only the 3rd day I join Bel Air, I'll spend about 1 month to learn about this product before selling it. Here I'm sharing with you all what I'd learn so far. According to statistic, healing with smell is more effective than taking capsule or drugs. Why? It says that if you take a poison drug, it takes 20-30mins before the poison get into your blood stream. While by smell, you can kill almost instantly. Imagine you smell carbon mono everyday, that kill you faster. What's more you breath more at night and you never stop breathing. You can wash a dirty paper but can you wash your lung? Do you think that if you sit inside an aircon you are safe? In fact, more bacteria is lock in a room.

So after all the problem, this Bel Air they told me could refresh the air, clean the room bacteria up to 99%, the smell will be absorb by our body using different "oil" that create different smell. Say some skin infection or if you bleed, including bird flu can be cure with their product. That's what per claim...

Well, will give more update once I learn more. I dont know how Bel Air compare with Lamp Berger but I'd been told Lamp Berger is just a aromatherapy and money making network. Hmm...
Inspirasi
QUOTE(ryanhkn @ Dec 1 2005, 11:33 PM)
I'm not too sure about Lamp Berger, but I myself had join Bel Air (http://www.belairworld.com/). I join for the reason of my dad, he got sinus and went through surgery/medication, and worst he still not recovered completely. So I bump into old friend of mine intro me into this Bel Air. I'm surprise to find out that the product have such a high healing power compare to the western medicine. That's why I give it a try and see the result after 1 week.

So I'm giving it a try, bought the product that worth Rm1.5k (to become a franchaisee). If it works, i will spare my time and effort to sell this and if it's not I'll just give it a past. At least my ST return is higher than this MLM  thumbup(1).gif

Since this is only the 3rd day I join Bel Air, I'll spend about 1 month to learn about this product before selling it. Here I'm sharing with you all what I'd learn so far. According to statistic, healing with smell is more effective than taking capsule or drugs. Why? It says that if you take a poison drug, it takes 20-30mins before the poison get into your blood stream. While by smell, you can kill almost instantly. Imagine you smell carbon mono everyday, that kill you faster. What's more you breath more at night and you never stop breathing. You can wash a dirty paper but can you wash your lung? Do you think that if you sit inside an aircon you are safe? In fact, more bacteria is lock in a room.

So after all the problem, this Bel Air they told me could refresh the air, clean the room bacteria up to 99%, the smell will be absorb by our body using different "oil" that create different smell. Say some skin infection or if you bleed, including bird flu can be cure with their product. That's what per claim...

Well, will give more update once I learn more. I dont know how Bel Air compare with Lamp Berger but I'd been told Lamp Berger is just a aromatherapy and money making network. Hmm...
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Maybe after using the product you can smell that a program is a scam rofl4.gif

Keep us updated harhar.gif yahoo.gif thumbup(1).gif

kof
hey ryan.. airport security might wanna hire u to sniff drugs rofl4.gif
ryanhkn
Are you trying to be funny?
meeya
LB is good to stay until their license expire at 2007.

till then, there are several major changes in LB.

LB is obvious like other HYIP scam site or so call 'Skim cepat kaya' program.

all you need to invest is RM2500 and get 5 downlines and pay the same amount and you will get back your 2500 plus profit. and you are promoted a level up.

i am not a member of LB but just like one of you all here talked and recommend by a friend. their old office at raja chulan and moved to menara HL near hakka restaurant.

if you guys right now playing ST or 12DP concept, i am sure next year one of you all might re-consider LB again. all are similar and related.

have fun !
ryanhkn
Thanks for the comment meeya.

I agree both LB and Bel-Air are same, profit dominate individual motivation. Without health, how do you enjoy the wealth? I care less of making money, health come first. Again, that's my opinion. No need to flame me ok..
kof
QUOTE(ryanhkn @ Dec 4 2005, 12:58 PM)
Are you trying to be funny?
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owh sudah marah? saya bising sajah.. keke
QUOTE(meeya @ Dec 4 2005, 04:48 PM)
LB is good to stay until their license expire at 2007.

till then, there are several major changes in LB.

LB is obvious like other HYIP scam site or so call 'Skim cepat kaya' program.

all you need to invest is RM2500 and get 5 downlines and pay the same amount and you will get back your 2500 plus profit. and you are promoted a level up.

i am not a member of LB but just like one of you all here talked and recommend by a friend.  their old office at raja chulan and moved to menara HL near hakka restaurant.

if you guys right now playing ST or 12DP concept, i am sure next year one of you all might re-consider LB again.  all are similar and related.

have fun !
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ya.. they do hav background similar scheme but with HYIP/Autosurf, but u dun hav to run around to seach for downlines while with LB, no downline, no income, but with product to play with if u enjoy it biggrin.gif
potato85
I think the only reason they are different because they are legal supported with black and white documents.

I see it as some kind of MLM. What if no one join under me ??? Not sure how I get back my principal

I got a few friends into this. Should introduced them something like 12dailypro.

I think LB is a waste of time and money only crying.gif
enigma
in my opinion, its all a game... so choose one that you are comfortable with and if it happens to be LB, then so be it. personally, i prefer something like gold or diamonds... things that you can keep and appreciate over time.

cheers
Inspirasi
Nope. You can't compare LB or Bel-Air with 12DP or ST harhar.gif

To make money with LB or Bel-Air you need to smile from ear to ear biggrin.gif
Practice makes perfect blink.gif

As for 12DP, ST or AlienTrust only your fingers need to move. You can even work
in your undies ......or whatever tongue4.gif

The only similarity they have is to make money dance9bh.gif

Go figure yahoo.gif
meeya
As far as i know,

LB is suppose not to be in MLM concept.

its just that some fella from msia bring it to our home soil and linked
the LB products with MLM plans and thus become MLM thingy.

If you guys ever noticed when u fill up the membership form or any forms
from them, why its not shown Lamp Berger (M) Sdn Bhd but instead
showing some tom, dick and harry company like Rizal corporation S/B
(cant remember the actual name).


Keep the contacts of your LB friends, get them to join and refer them
in 12dp or ST.

i am sure they wont hesitate to join these online investment program.

if they able to give 2500 to LB, why not to 12dp or ST....
approx $600 USD.

its just that, their LB people mindset is Money making. that's all in them.

in fact, all MLM to say.



ryanhkn
After 2 weeks trying, Bel-Air is not as effective as it seems to be. Here's some pros and cons from my personnel experience. I'm not a pro evaluator, so this is merely my opinion!

Pros:
a) Good MLM income, work hard and get more referral to join the Duke level and you can retire
b) Latest award given out was around Aug 2005 and only 2 Duke in Malaysia. Plenty of rooms to grow
c) Members can be recruited any part of the world under your downline and required only 5 persons to built your empire

Cons:
a) Not all people could accept the smell, some people nose are very sensitive so it only suit a group of people. Although they have many flavour and the most mild one is Greentea
b) My dad still suffer from sinus and I follow exactly the prescription given. Ain't get any better (and thanks god not worsen it)
c) If you put it in your room, after 2-3 hours it become stuffy. You have to get up and turn it off
d) Price is expensive for the oil, let's say 500ml can last only for 1 week or less depend on your usage. I only use it at night, about 3 hours each night only
e) Hard to get people onboard and sell product when most people already know Lampe berger, while Bel-Air is just another similar one. The selling point is not solid as I see. Basically you need to purchase Rm1500 (franchaisee level) or RM27000 (for Court level) worth of product before you can really make good money.

Oh well.. I guess the list will goes on after another week. I'll stick with another investment program better though.
enigma
QUOTE(ryanhkn @ Dec 12 2005, 10:15 AM)
After 2 weeks trying, Bel-Air is not as effective as it seems to be. Here's some pros and cons from my personnel experience. I'm not a pro evaluator, so this is merely my opinion!

Pros:
a) Good MLM income, work hard and get more referral to join the Duke level and you can retire
b) Latest award given out was around Aug 2005 and only 2 Duke in Malaysia. Plenty of rooms to grow
c) Members can be recruited any part of the world under your downline and required only 5 persons to built your empire

Cons:
a) Not all people could accept the smell, some people nose are very sensitive so it only suit a group of people. Although they have many flavour and the most mild one is Greentea
b) My dad still suffer from sinus and I follow exactly the prescription given. Ain't get any better (and thanks god not worsen it)
c) If you put it in your room, after 2-3 hours it become stuffy. You have to get up and turn it off
d) Price is expensive for the oil, let's say 500ml can last only for 1 week or less depend on your usage. I only use it at night, about 3 hours each night only
e) Hard to get people onboard and sell product when most people already know Lampe berger, while Bel-Air is just another similar one. The selling point is not solid as I see. Basically you need to purchase Rm1500 (franchaisee level) or RM27000 (for Court level) worth of product before you can really make good money.

Oh well.. I guess the list will goes on after another week. I'll stick with another investment program better though.
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nothing like personal experience
Inspirasi
QUOTE(ryanhkn @ Dec 11 2005, 07:15 PM)
After 2 weeks trying, Bel-Air is not as effective as it seems to be. Here's some pros and cons from my personnel experience. I'm not a pro evaluator, so this is merely my opinion!

Pros:
a) Good MLM income, work hard and get more referral to join the Duke level and you can retire
b) Latest award given out was around Aug 2005 and only 2 Duke in Malaysia. Plenty of rooms to grow
c) Members can be recruited any part of the world under your downline and required only 5 persons to built your empire

Cons:
a) Not all people could accept the smell, some people nose are very sensitive so it only suit a group of people. Although they have many flavour and the most mild one is Greentea
b) My dad still suffer from sinus and I follow exactly the prescription given. Ain't get any better (and thanks god not worsen it)
c) If you put it in your room, after 2-3 hours it become stuffy. You have to get up and turn it off
d) Price is expensive for the oil, let's say 500ml can last only for 1 week or less depend on your usage. I only use it at night, about 3 hours each night only
e) Hard to get people onboard and sell product when most people already know Lampe berger, while Bel-Air is just another similar one. The selling point is not solid as I see. Basically you need to purchase Rm1500 (franchaisee level) or RM27000 (for Court level) worth of product before you can really make good money.

Oh well.. I guess the list will goes on after another week. I'll stick with another investment program better though.
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Hmmmmm........what an MLM. The nose has to wait blink.gif

Currently there's no cure for sinus.

espionage
never heard of bel air, LB is a common 1
Inspirasi
Heard about it from here.

Interested only in online automated opportunities now smile.gif

linkeong
Just want to say LB and Belair products are scam. They were exposed by TVB Hong Kong. Search the net for the video. lildevil.gif I just watched it.
ryanhkn
I'm interested to know, care to show it to me? What tvb said? I drop out Bel Air already, but I hope to know what's happening.
linkeong
TVB sent an undercover to contact the company. Then they record the conversation and got video also. Then they bought some products and sent it to a lab for testing and it was found that the product has no effect or whatsoever on anything except heating up the air. Then the company is more interested in making money than selling the product. They show the "special" plan where 1 people recruit 5 den 5 recruit more and so on. Also the produt is sold at 1/3 of the price in the USA including shipping to Malaysia. Without shipping I think only 1/4 of the price.
ryanhkn
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
RT8888
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Just want to say LB and Belair products are scam. They were exposed by TVB Hong Kong. Search the net for the video. lildevil.gif I just watched it.


Hi can show me the link where can download/view online for that video ?

Thanks
hellopczone
aiyo...stay away from LB lar... post-36326-1110185726.gif
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