Please PM it to me. I'm getting boatloads of spam, but I have not seen your email.

- AK

Hello Unbuttereds!! How is everybody doing? Hello Loopy! Hope all is well with your family and that you are enjoying your time with them.

Hello!

Hello!!

Hello??




Where is everybody?

I feel so lonely.

I am still here! I have been helping some friends move. It has taken longer than I thought it would. And it is extremely exhausting. I will update my site as soon as I can. Still doing well and still making positive progress. Will touch bases again as soon as I get a chance...

hi loopy22, i saw in an earlier post that you are receiving a lot of spam, so i thought that i would use this method for my question. My gut instinct as well as your length of time on here, tells me that you are the real deal, however, i have learned that only proof can truly be used as dd for any possible investment. do you mind providing me with proof? if you have already done this in this forum, then please direct me to where i need to be, and that'll work for me. please let me know. thanks

Thanks for your post. I have screenshots of all my trades for the last year on my web site. You can view that information (click on my signature for the link) directly on my web site. One thing you should know is, I am not soliciting any new people to invest with me. If you want to, that is certainly fine, but I am not begging anyone to get involved. I am doing quite fine on my own and only have this opportunity open for those of you who are really interested. That is why I offer no bonuses or other perks, or advertise anywhere. I used to play the HYIP game quite a lot, but now I focus mainly my trading and also on helping a few friends of mine who are going through some difficult times right now. I spend very little time on the forums, but I do try to post an update here at least once a week. Anyway, thanks again for your post. I will try to answer any specific question you or anyone else might have.

i must apologize as i had looked at the site and didnt even notice the screenshot sitting right in front of me...lol thank you for your time and patience. I appreciate your reasons for allowing others to even be a part of this. thank you

Great results Loopy once again.
I trust Loopy with my money. I feel fortunate to be an investor in this program. Keep up the good work Loopy.

Hello dlac2!!

Where in the world have you been?? I've missed you terribly. So happy to see you back in the thread!! Don't stay gone so long the next time.

The best proof of being a true friend is when you move and your friend actually shows up and helps. If you ever want to test someones true friendship, ask them to help you move (that or if you happen to need a kidney ). Loopy, you are a true friend indeed!! (Did I mention that I will be moving in the next couple of months??)

Oh and once again, great results Loopy!!

Screenshots are unsufficient proof tough. Screenshots are not DD, just part of it. But since you are in the US, its dangerous to disclose all your info. You see some europian traders disclose all their info, but you rarely see any US trader disclose it these days, because the SEC is witchhunting unlicensed businesses. Better just stay under the radar, do your thing and let people judge/decide theirself whether they wanna join you.

If you are not too far away from Sacramento, I can lend a hand with your move. I just need to make sure it fits in my schedule, but if I am available, you got me!



I have been getting some creepy emails from I am not sure who, so I am wondering if an investigation is starting on me... Anyway, I am not all that worried, as I keep my trading account very separate from everything else I do. I just hope I have enough degrees of separation...



Thanks. For some reason, I have a feeling that this will be a slow week, but I have been wrong before. We will see soon enough...



You are most welcome. And feel free to take your time deciding on this or any other opportunity you are looking at...

Weekly results posted. Everyone enjoy your weekend!

Yippee!!
Yahoo!!

Great job again Loopy!! As usual.

Checking the weekly results has become one of the highlights of my week!! I am so glad to be a part of this.

Unbuttered is without question the best program I have ever been in.

Loopy22, I sent you email about bank wire that I can send you money only with swift code. But I couldn't answered from you. Dont you accept invest USA out side?

I agree Justdo it. I look forward to Loopy's weekly results as well. After working all week, it's nice to see the weekly results. I track them as well on an excel spreadsheet. It's amazing the type of results Loopy has achieved.

This is a great little community we have here in this program. I agree as well that this is the best program I have encountered in these HYIP/non HYIP forums. Actually it's the only one I have encountered in here that has been for real.

Enjoy the rest of the weekend. My beloved Red Sox have tied the series

Loopy,

I sent you a $500 money order on July 23rd. After about a month a requested a withdrawal, and you said you would send it. I have given you my full name and mailing address several times, by email and PM, and still nothing. and from reading this forum, it doesn't look like anyone has ever gotten any money out of this program. I guess I'm finished with trusting people who merely seem trustworthy.

Ether,
Did you PM Loopy here in this forum? She said that would be the best way to reach her. You are incorrect when you stated that no one has gotten money from this program. After Loopy decided to pare down the number of investor's in this program for anyone with an investment under $500 (but also said anyone with an amount over $500 could also cash out), she cashed out everyone who requested. They received their balances which included every penny of their profits as well.

I do not know what the situation with this is but I would definitely PM her here in the forum. There is not one single person that I have more confidence or trust in this whole forum over Loopy. I don't think for a second that Loopy is trying to cheat you out of your money and feel like this will be cleared up very soon.

Its the disadvantage of money orders. Some postal offices and/or countries are extreme unreliable, when it comes to delivering money orders, it depends where you live. It seems to me Ether lives in such place. It may be better for Loopy, to just exceptionally wire the money to avoid issues. If loopy refuses to send the money back by wire, its possible this issue can never be resolved.

I dunno where Ether lives, but I know if I send something to Cuba for example there is a 90% chance the item does never arrive. However if i send something to Germany, there is a 0.01% chance it doesnt arrive.

I live in California, not in Cuba, or Germany, or any other remote location. So whatever disadvantage you were speaking of doesn't really apply in this case. I have always found money orders to be extremely convenient and have never had any problems at all with them.




Of course I have. I know that writing messages in this forum isn't the best way to communicate with her, and I have sent her several PMs over the past few months. They were all very polite. And she responded to each one by saying that she'll put it in the mail soon. Every time she responded she gave me a different reason why she hasn't sent it yet. I wonder how many more reasons she can think of before she runs out.

Ether, I really hate to hear the problems that you are having. Trust me, I feel your frustration. It's the exact way that I feel in almost every program that I have dealt with. But like I stated before, I do not think for a second that Loopy is trying to cheat you out of your money. I really feel like everything will be straightened out. PM Loopy again in this forum (even though you've already done so, go ahead and do it again). Keep us updated on how things unfold.

Hang in there. Loopy isn't always active in the forum. Last week's results aren't even posted on her website. She has other issues she is dealing with outside of her program. I don't think she is trying to cheat you.

Just wanted to pop in here and say...

HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!

to all my fellow unbuttereds.

My little girl just feel asleep and it's time to raid her cache!

I really need a chocolate fix.

Hello everyone. I see it is definitely time for an update.

Trading results are OK, so no worries there. Latest screenshot has been posted. However, on the personal end of things, I have a close family friend who is nearing her end of life. She lives in Sacramento, and even though I am not a blood relative, I am her closest family, so I have taken it upon myself to help. It is a hard road, and I really am having a difficult time of it, but I promised myself I would do it. What does this mean for trading? It should not affect my trading in any way. It just means that I will be spending time in a different place while I do chores and help with all the needs of a person with limited mobility. Anyway, I just thought you would like to know why I have not been here much lately.

Also, Ether, please PM me with your address once again. I am not trying to rip you off. Send me your address and I will send you a postal money order again. I really do not know what happened to the first one, but it is not worth trying to figure it out. Just PM me as I cannot find your address anywhere, and it is not in my email. If you would rather email me, send to sign4food @ yahoo.com.

I am not sure how much time I will spend here in the next month or two, but I will attempt to keep my web site current with my latest trading results. Thank you everyone for your patience and understanding.

Hi Loopy. I'm sorry about your family friend. I'm sure that friend appreciates your support during this difficult time.

On the trading front, I as well as other unbuttereds look forward to the trading results, when you can take a breather. Hopefully the communication issues with Esther have worked out by now. It appears you two are in the same part of California. So close, yet so far apart.

Hi to all other unbuttereds. Those in US, have a Happy Thanksgiving.

Loopy,

You truly are a good friend. It is really hard to find friends who stick by you even in difficult times. I am so sorry to hear about your friend and it brought tears to my eyes when I read your post. Your friend is very fortunate to have you. I also have been blessed in my life to have been gifted with friends who really care about me. I am so glad that your friend has someone like you. I will keep her in my prayers. Please keep us updated on how everything is going and know that we are thinking of you.

justdoit

Loopy,

I hope that everything is well with you. Hopefully you can take a minute and pop in the thread to let us know how things are going. We'd really like to hear from you.

justdoit

Did anyone successfully withdrew money recently? Loopy appears to be very non active these days. Where are you Loopy?

Ether, did you recieve your money yet? Anyone else who withdrew some funds? Any updates?

No updates for a month. Loopy is caring for a dieing friend, but expects to be trading. Hopefully she can take five minutes to give us an update. She did say back on Nov. 2, that she didn't expect to be in here much in the next month or two. Hope all is well Loopy; we're anxious to here from you.

Still no update in the website and no post in the thread. This is very disheartening to me. I have trusted Loopy more than anyone I have ever met in this forum. I have met some really wonderful people in this forum and consider them to be my online friends. But there has not been a single person that I have thought more of or trusted more than I have Loopy. It would be such a bitter blow to me to find out I was so wrong. Although the money is the most important issue, it would hit me so much deeper than simply the money. I just feel sure that there is something going on as to why she has not posted or updated the website.

Loopy, please, please, please come and post in the thread. We really need to hear from you.

Tammy

Loopy is my last hope in this arena. I have trusted her as well and still do, but it is frustrating not to get any updates from her in 5 weeks. I'm sure she has access to a computer while caring for her friend. Why no updates? She said she was going to be trading during this time. It doesn't take long to do an update to let us know the status of things. I hope we hear from her soon, otherwise this will be the end of the road for me with any of these programs. I have tried over a year, and everyone has been a scam. I still think Loopy is different, but I think she owes it to her loyal members of her program to keep them updated. I don't think that is asking for much, since we all loaned her at least $500. That is not chump change.

Please keep us updated. Where are you Loopy?

In the last year and a half, of the 4 programs I joined 3 are still alive and kicking, but I have been trying for over 7 years now to find some decent programs. Not everything is scam, but 99.9999999% is. Imagine you need to find 5 needles in the rainforest, how long would it take you to find all 5? Or what are the chances you find all 5 needles in the same year? The answers to those questions are exactly what it takes, to find the real opportunities online.

Sadly if you dont find those needles in time, you will make either a LOSS online, or if you are good in the hit and run game, you have 0.1% chance to make a profit from scams. 99% of people online eventually loose some of all of their money they invest.

So really, I do fully understand why 99% also give up after a few attempt and never look back. Thats perfectly normal. Everyone who comes online for the first time, thinks they found the new american dream, but a bit later they are faced with the reality again..

I didnt invest in unbuttered but I considered it. I do hope it works out well for you. I hate to see people become scammed.

I requested a withdrawal several months ago and despite numerous promises I haven't gotten it yet. I've sent loopy my address by email and PM many times.

By the way, exactly what is it that made so many people trust her, and even regard her as a friend? Her personality? That's pretty thin. I mean, we are talking about real money here. I haven't heard of anyone getting any real money from this program. I might be wrong. If I am then please tell me.

I saw a lot of potential in this program but if I dont have any DD and I am not 100% sure, then I always wait at least 9 months before investing. Afterwards Loopy changed to check only which is not an option for me, I dropped this program from my future portfolio list.

No I havent seen anyone been paid by this program. You were probably the first in this program that withdrew a big amount, so it was the first real big test to see if this program lived up to its standard. And alas I am sad to notice that you were not paid. This is a first "red flag".

Another suspicious thing is that I did an interview with Loopy and was going to post it on nobshyip. As most people know nobshyip is a community lead by Jude, were people come together to fight against scams, weed them out and find the real deals out there. Interviews is the first step towards proper DD. Well, Loopy never responded to my questions and I was not able to submit the interview. So she couldnt even finish the first part of DD. Another "red flag".

Also something about performances. Like it or not, but the best conservative traders make around 5% a month. And well, non conservative traders running a program, NEVER survived EVER, statistics dont lie. Loopy had slightly higher performance then 5% at the start, so at first it looked pretty cool, but after a year the monthly average increased to +10% already and it didnt costed her much trouble at all. And recently her % went even beyond 20%. Again a "red flag".

The profits didnt looked real anymore to me. (Just to compare...xxx[private] one of the very rare programs where trading have been 100% fully verified and where Jude performed massive DD on, had 25% profit in a WHOLE YEAR. Altough xxx doesnt have the best traders(rather lazy once), Loopy managed to make this profit in one month time. Who are we kidding?)

I theirfor have moved Unbuttered in the "scam" section on my personal watch-list. If Loopy comes back and pays you, I may move it back, but not before.

Since I started tracking in juli 2006, I now have 40 potential programs in my closed/scam list, 1 on hold and 6 operational(who can still scam in the future) and 1 program that closed after doing FULL refunds. Sad statistics.

It's really frustrating not to get any news here. It's hard to figure what gives. She wasn't actively recruiting investors to her site. I bet she has less than 10 of us. Still the fact that she doesn't attempt to respond to email, come into this forum or update her website, doesn't sound encouraging. If she has suspended trading these last few weeks, then she could at least tell us.

The other major red flag is the fact that Esther has repeatedly tried to get a withdrawal. How hard is it to mail a check to the address he provided. I'm sure he has sent his address to her a dozen times by now.

I was lead to believe that she was a real person, doing real trading, who had real everyday problems like you and me. I always thought she was a scatter brain about things, but I thought that was just part of her quirky personality.

Now it seems the whole thing was a sharade.

What ever happened to her so called Las Vegas venture that she was getting into?

I'm not happy at all about where this is going. There is no excuse for not giving any updates.

Las Vegas? That was the first red flag and when she started talking about it, I actually started to worry for the first time. People have to realize its the city of gambling. She said she was flying over there a lot. To do what? Business as she told us? With what money did she fly over there? Investors? It could be she used yours and others money to gamble in Las Vegas, because she is addicted to it. If thats the case, it probably explained why she didnt promoted her program. She may wanted to keep it under the radar so she could collect some pocket money without any major risks.

Maybe when Loopy comes in here, she will be pissed off because we accuse her of things, but well thats her own fault, she could at least drop in here to check on her members. Its not like she has +100 members to take care off. They are indeed probably only 10 or so. When there is a fire, you have to extinguish it, not ignore it.

By the way, my screen name is ether93, but my name is David.

I concluded a while ago that this program is nothing but a very thinly veiled scam. Thats' my opinion anyway, and I started to think that as soon as Loopy started stalling about returning my money.

Looks like she is spending your money on christmas presents and on a new year drink David. Its this time of the year the real face of admins start to show. I still hope you have a very nice christmas tough. We all deserve a break from work and school.

Loopy, I have no doubt that you are coming into this thread and reading these posts. I cannot tell you how deeply saddened and hurt I am that someone that I trusted so much ended up being just like every other lying, thieving administrator in this arena.

I just cannot imagine that there would be much enjoyment in spending money from people who thought so highly of you and who trusted you so much. I know it would leave a bitter taste in my mouth and a hollow feeling in my stomach.

Loopy, I hope I was not that far off the mark about who I thought you were and that what you have done to me and dlac and ether (and whatever other members there were) has played havoc with your conscience. I trusted you more than any other person that I have ever come across in this scheming, conniving arena. Every time I would read about an administrator who ended up scamming, I would always think the same thing,: thank goodness I am in Loopy's program!! I know I can trust her, she would never do that.

How ironic, I guess the joke truly was on me.

I can't even seem to get angry at you Loopy, I just feel so very saddened and hurt by your callous betrayal.

To David and dlac: I am so very sorry that this has happened to us. I cannot express how deeply disappointed I feel.

In fact, She logged on MMG exactly 0 times since begin november. Maybe she is scamming, maybe she isnt. Maybe she will get angry when she comes back because you and me and anyone else dont trust her anymore atm. But if she dont even care to log on in 2 months time, not even once or let a friend tell us she is okay,(in case she is too bussy), what else do we have to believe??? You cant just leave your members in the cold for 2 months long and not even let a sign you are alive.

I too am sorry this happened to you all. As ex-nobshyip anti-scam blog writer and support/assistance helper of another investment program(which is currently running for +20 months now), I am very sad yet another program 'may' have gone belly up. I also felt for Loopies tricks for a long while but before I could gather the money to invest, she removed e-gold and changed to US checks only. In fact after she changed to check/money order only, I never really felt comfortable with her anymore.

This program didn't go "belly-up" because it never was a program to begin with. She didn't invest our money. she just took it and kept it.

Yeah, I am sorry this happened to you Ether. Anything you can do legally to get your 500$ back?
Nothing is worse then giving your trust to someone, and then realize this person didnt even trade one single hour with your money, but simply took it in her pocket.

Happy new year to you anyways tough.

I am not content to let this one just fade away. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed or what our next step should be? I think there must be enough clues and information to find out who Loopy actually is. I would really like to fight this. I had so much trust in Loopy and she just stomped the hell all over it.

Did you check out the address thats on her website? Did you do a checkup on her name? When I finally decided to ask a DD from Loopy in october she ignored me and soon afterwards she disappeared.

Here's a good way to fight back.

http://www.sec.gov/complaint.shtml

This one appears dead without a trace. I feel really angry about this one, because I lost $600 on this one. This program was my last HYIP besides a couple of RPP's I'm in.

I had faith in Loopy and thought she was a real trader. Now, I don't know if she really traded forex and lost our money or just blew the money gambling or just disappeared with our money.

The fact that she has disappeared without a trace leads me to believe that she just took our money.

I think for now on I will stick with more traditional investing, mutual funds and the stock market. I wouldn't want to try forex myself, it seems to volatile.

Even if she did trade and even if she had shown you proof of it. Even if she let you remotedly log in the trading account to check the trades...if she aint honest, she just packs are bags and leave.

I am sorry you all lost out here. I guess I must praise myself lucky that Loopy removed e-gold when I was considering throwing a few bucks in. She in fact saved me a lot of grief. But what about the others that did invest here? Shame on you Loopy!

This is the problem with LYIP's. If you picked the right one, one that does pay out for a long while, you will nearly always make a profit if you never compound. But if you pick the wrong one, it doesnt pay at all. You have 50% chance a lyip is less risk than a hyip but also 50% chance its higher risk instead.

Too bad, you never know which admin will run with your funds, and which doesnt.

i have a lot of doubts about this statement.

Anna-Karin I don't know how you could just walk away from this so easily when you betrayed the very people that had so much trust in you. I still find it hard to believe that you could be so callous!! I had so much belief in you!! I don't know whether to say shame on you or shame on myself for trusting you so much!!