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smart_i80
Undreamed Success launched !
The url is : http://www.undreamedsuccess.com

Welcome to Undreamed Success!
Where the dreams you never thought…will come to life

This site was created through suggestions and input of members to be one of the best programs ever that will give you success you’ve never dreamed of before. The plans, the terms, the structure is all from input of members like you! This all sounds nice but I ask that you allow time to prove the success.

My name is smarti_80 and I am the admin for Undreamed
Success.



Why you should join:

High Website Security
Custom Script and Design
DDoS Protection and Dedicated Server
High profitable Plans
Great Support
Not a ponzi. A Real gold trading program.
No 50/50 rule
Fast payments and reward bonuses
You can withdraw unlimited times per day
10% Referral Commission
Ran by smart_i80 from MMG
Easy to use interface



Click Here To Join Instantly!.

In The first 12 hours of the program launch joined and deposited
Total Members : 65
Total Deposits: 1330.95 USD
SportyBro
hey smarty, seems like its going to be a wonderful site.

I really think that the 5 day payout will be great not too long and not too short. show your active on mmg and it will be great. Maybe offer live chat on the site as well.
smart_i80
QUOTE(sportybro @ Nov 19 2006, 05:11 PM) [snapback]3196535[/snapback]

hey smarty, seems like its going to be a wonderful site.

I really think that the 5 day payout will be great not too long and not too short. show your active on mmg and it will be great. Maybe offer live chat on the site as well.


This is what I thought about, not too long and not too short deposit period. It's just a great for everyone investor. I personally like it. Of course I will be active smile.gif You know I'm and I won't stop. I don't think live chat is necessary because I'm offering chat via MSN and YIM also a phone where you can leave a message but thank you for the suggestion.
Bonus paid. Thank you for your comment.

I will go to sleep. It's too late and I'm tired. See you tomorrow and don't forget to post. I understand it's sunday night and many are not online so I hope you will appear tomorrow! smile.gif
zeal
hey man,

I think that as far as website design is concerned, it has no bearing at all on the
success of the program, so long as it's functional (paying everyone), loads fast,
and is highly secure, is of upmost importance than the actual look. I would
throw my focus there. smile.gif

Also automatic instant payouts are highly attractive if possible, but I guess manual
is more safer so 5 business days is alright, perhaps 4 days would be perfect clapping7.gif
Goldlisting
Payments within 5 business days is a bit long.I hope you can use autowithdraw system,this can attractive more ppl's eyes.and more strong promotions is very need. smile.gif
Lesbian
Sorry I only have a comment on your project, that is, it bears the necessary ingredient for success. Now why did i say that? Because you have placed importance on security, your offering excellent plans that are acttractive and I am very confident investors would not have a problem with payment turnaround time smile.gif

Best of luck in this amazing project smarty biggrin.gif
SecureSurfsadmin
Hi admin! I sent mail for you! I waiting your reply. Thanks!
Harvest Fee
Hi admin! I'll add your program in my list.
mardigrass
If your script and server are as secure as you say they are, then having auto-withdrawal will not cause any problem. Autowithdrawal gives the members a feeling of security that they can get the profit when it is time for them to get it. That 5 days is too long. In 24 hours of not receiving a pay-out, you'll be reading "I have not received payment yet".

And lastly, if your program has been planned and studied well for stability and profitability, then you should feel confident that when you start it, your program will be supported so there is no need for you to start this thread asking for suggestions and comments
hyipguyz
admin. you need more monitors.
perkyhyip
beautiful place,keep watching.

QUOTE

admin. you need more monitors.

Yes i think so.

QUOTE

admin. you need more monitors.

Yes i think so.
st8888
1Dream --- 24% daily for 5 days - total 120% (20%
total profit)

The best plan!
gustaf
Hi smarty
the plans seems good and with the Payment time within 5 business days it's make reliable to earn 120% in 12 calendar days it could be the last run longest ever.
the security site is the most important thing, many programs broke down because they got hacked on egold, lovely to see you are concern in site security , and don't forget to use only the best script ,or even you need to customize it to be more sucure
can wait till it is launched smile.gif




regards
Gustaf(3014440)
Project_Yayarea
Hi Smarty,

I'm interested in if how you are making the profits or are you just making a game?

Richard
mymoney
Hello friend
Thanks for inviting me in this thread
as per your thread its nice to see your hard work towards to your project
just make sure that whatever the plan you make it must be profitable and for the purpose of the long time
some people from mmg allready know you but please post your details profile for us who dont know you properly. Explain it the whole thing whats come in your mind to make your own site rather than investing in HYIP as you say that you will be the investor. just give the details on the trading or revenue which comes in business to pay the members. that make more confident to invest in site
its just the opinion and advice will post later more
Thanks
ploygampetch
Hey Smarty

its nice to see that you run your own HYIP biggrin.gif
Doommister
Smarty, about the legal things..
I don't want any authorities involved.
Poetoet
Hi ALL..

Hi Marty...

If you are honest admin, then i'm absolutely sure that your program will support by many potential user and grow smoothly. The most important thing u should think is
- How to use income from user correctly, many of admin hyip devide on 2 type :
1. Admin whom want to use income only for their own.
2. Admin whom use it for benefit for all component of program.

Its only you, that know..and the desicion is in ur hand..smile.gif
Else, I will help you if u need.
smart_i80
QUOTE(zeal @ Nov 19 2006, 05:42 PM) [snapback]3196619[/snapback]

hey man,

I think that as far as website design is concerned, it
has no bearing at all on the
success of the program, so long as it's functional
(paying everyone), loads fast,
and is highly secure, is of upmost importance
than the actual look. I would
throw my focus there.

Also automatic instant payouts are highly attractive
if possible, but I guess manual
is more safer so 5 business days is alright, perhaps 4
days would be perfect


I think you are right about the design. I see alot of
nice programs but it doesn't mean anything.
Of course the website will load fast, it will be
functional and highly secure. I was thinking so long
about these things and I have seen what the problems
could be so I'm sure I will be able to take care of
it.

Automatic instant payouts are very attractive but I
think it's not very safe. I really don't like the fact
there is EG password at the website because, you
know no matter how good it's protected it might
attract hackers to try the security. I have heard it's
easy to hack a website no matter the good security if
it's a good hacker. I also see alot of hyip games are
allowing these withdraws but not serious programs. It
means programs where the deposits don't exceed
several thousands but what if the website grows ? Then
I will have to turn it off and the people won't like
that and they will leave.

I think the best will be just to offer very fast
payments. Something like payments within 4 days every
day of the week.


QUOTE(Goldlisting @ Nov 19 2006, 05:52 PM) [snapback]3196642[/snapback]

Payments within 5 business days is a bit long.I hope
you can use autowithdraw system,this can attractive
more ppl's eyes.and more strong promotions is very

need.


Payments will be within 4 days and there won't be
auto-withdraw system, I just don't see it's right to
allow it as it's a very high risk for your money.
The strong promotion is sure because I have more than
60 people who are interested to promote and they will
sure like the program.


QUOTE(Lesbian @ Nov 19 2006, 06:46 PM) [snapback]3196795[/snapback]

Sorry I only have a comment on your project, that is,
it bears the necessary ingredient for success. Now why
did i say that? Because you have placed importance on
security, your offering excellent plans that are
acttractive and I am very confident investors would
not have a problem with payment turnaround time smile.gif

Best of luck in this amazing project smarty


Thank you for your confidence. I will make the best
for you if you really want that.

QUOTE(SecureSurfsadmin) [snapback]3196799[/snapback]

Hi admin! I sent mail for you! I waiting your reply.
Thanks!


I will reply to your email very soon. Thank you.

QUOTE(mardigrass @ Nov 19 2006, 07:16 PM) [snapback]3196899[/snapback]

If your script and server are as secure as you say
they are, then having auto-withdrawal will not cause
any problem. Autowithdrawal gives the members a
feeling of security that they can get the profit when
it is time for them to get it. That 5 days is too
long. In 24 hours of not receiving a pay-out, you'll
be reading "I have not received payment yet".

And lastly, if your program has been planned and
studied well for stability and profitability, then you
should feel confident that when you start it, your
program will be supported so there is no need for you
to start this thread asking for suggestions and
comments


I don't think it's true. I think the auto-wthdraw
might attract the attention of the professional
hackers when the website grows. I will just teach all
members to wait the payment time so I think everything
will be ok. I will be here so what's the problem with
waiting up to 4 days ? smile.gif If someone post "I have no
received payment yet" I will just ask when did you
request it and after checking I will let him know the
waiting period is up to 4 regular days. I'm confident
but I prefer to discuss with you because I respect the
opinions of many of you and I might miss something.
I'm not in hurry so why should I hurry starting the
website ? I prefer to discuss it first and then
created in the best way.


QUOTE(gustaf @ Nov 19 2006, 08:09 PM) [snapback]3197118[/snapback]

Hi smarty
the plans seems good and with the Payment time within
5 business days it's make reliable to earn 120% in 12
calendar days it could be the last run longest ever.
the security site is the most important thing, many
programs broke down because they got hacked on egold,
lovely to see you are concern in site security , and
don't forget to use only the best script ,or even you
need to customize it to be more sucure
can wait till it is launched
regards
Gustaf(3014440)


Of course I will use script which was already used and
tested and is secure created from scratch. I won't use
the goldcoders or such bad scripts.


QUOTE(Project_Yayarea) [snapback]3197317[/snapback]

Hi Smarty,

I'm interested in if how you are making the profits or
are you just making a game?

Richard



If it's all about just a game I wouldn't bother you
it's mix of things I prefer not to disclose
but it's mainly focus on gold trading. I have already
hired someone offline and he is doing very well.
As I said there will be a blog with results and news
around that.

QUOTE(Doommister @ Nov 19 2006, 09:17 PM) [snapback]3197401[/snapback]

Smarty, about the legal things..
I don't want any authorities involved.


Probably it will just be offshore incorporation so
there won't be a problem with authorities like
onshore. It's better to be incorporated so I can open
bank account for the program and get some better
offers from brokers and other institutions if it comes
to that.

QUOTE(Poetoet @ Nov 19 2006, 09:21 PM) [snapback]3197409[/snapback]

Hi ALL..

Hi Marty...

If you are honest admin, then i'm absolutely sure that
your program will support by many potential user and
grow smoothly. The most important thing u should think
is
- How to use income from user correctly, many of admin
hyip devide on 2 type :
1. Admin whom want to use income only for their own.
2. Admin whom use it for benefit for all component of
program.

Its only you, that know..and the desicion is in ur
hand..
Else, I will help you if u need.


I won't use it for my own because the money are not
mine. They are just given to me as an opportunity to
make them more so I should be careful and manage them
in the right way. I'm sure it won't be a problem since
funds will be managed well. Thank you for the given
support. J
yushu
well.auto-withdrawal function isnt the most impostant matter though its so attracting for amost all the investors.i think the most importhing is how to manage investor\'s fund and make them produce profit so as to pay members stably profit.
Banker
QUOTE(mardigrass @ Nov 19 2006, 06:16 PM) [snapback]3196899[/snapback]

If your script and server are as secure as you say they are, then having auto-withdrawal will not cause any problem. Autowithdrawal gives the members a feeling of security that they can get the profit when it is time for them to get it. That 5 days is too long. In 24 hours of not receiving a pay-out, you'll be reading "I have not received payment yet".

And lastly, if your program has been planned and studied well for stability and profitability, then you should feel confident that when you start it, your program will be supported so there is no need for you to start this thread asking for suggestions and comments



I think it is very wize to ask for suggestions and opinions
because you want to build a program that is for the people
not just for profit and personal gain so, asking for opinions
and suggestions is a very good thing for us all. smile.gif

We actually have some say so in the creation of a program
that can benefit us all now , How often does that happen?

Another wize decision would be to set the pay out at a (Max.)
of (5) business days and can be paid out within the (5) business
days (1-4) leaving us with quick steady pay outs and as the
member base expands and increases the Admin (Smarty) will
have up to (5) business to pay members their funds. wink.gif

Im pleased that we are having this discussion and I
encourage everyone to continue as we can help make
one of the most successful HYIP programs in History. biggrin.gif



- Banker
gerons
Wow...next great HYIP
Banker
QUOTE(yushu @ Nov 19 2006, 10:05 PM) [snapback]3197814[/snapback]

well.auto-withdrawal function isnt the most impostant matter though its so attracting for amost all the investors.i think the most importhing is how to manage investor\'s fund and make them produce profit so as to pay members stably profit.



Auto withdrawals is a defenite No,No as the security and
integrity of the program is mandetory for the longevity
and long-term success of the program. smile.gif

And as for managing your (PP) Accounts, using Robo-Form
is a defenite must , this will help add even more protection
to your (PP) Accounts making it extremely difficult for a
seasoned hacker to penetrate your passwords. wink.gif

This discussion is off to an excellent start. smile.gif





- Banker
bondhol
Autowithdrawl is fast but not safe!!
smarty your plan is ok,
goodluck buddy!! biggrin.gif

gentho
your panning is sound good. you already prepare the server, and script. hope your script is not to old...
the investment plan is also reasonable..not to low and not to high, moderate is good..
however, the other think is you must make the site look nice. its also attract the investor to come.

hope best for you
Oe_eO
QUOTE(gerons @ Nov 20 2006, 02:27 PM) [snapback]3198134[/snapback]

Wow...next great HYIP

Yes, I defenitely join this site when it launced. biggrin.gif
When will your site launch?

About ROI
1dream (5days + 5 business days + saturday n sunday) = 12days.
12 days for 120% is reasonable for a hyip.

About idea for discussing his new hyip
It's great idea to discuss your new hyip. This shows your are serious with your hyip and you'll now what investor want.

About Manual withdraw and TOS
Manual withdraw it safer than isntant withdraw.
If hyip had trusted admin then manual withdraw is better than instant withdraw.
No problem with 5 business days TOS (admin would have a thousand withdrawal when this site growth.. LOL)
FTW
Hey Smarty...ANY site is only as good as its last pay.
Thats a fact!!!
You seem to have the security part right.
So long as you can manage the pay side, things will be fine.

BTW....I never join a site when I hear rweports that pays are being made close to the 5th day or 7th day
reason is simple...what takes so long??!!!
Pays mon-Fri only is OK, but 5 days???
smart_i80
QUOTE(Banker @ Nov 20 2006, 12:26 AM) [snapback]3198130[/snapback]

I think it is very wize to ask for suggestions and opinions
because you want to build a program that is for the people
not just for profit and personal gain so, asking for opinions
and suggestions is a very good thing for us all. smile.gif

We actually have some say so in the creation of a program
that can benefit us all now , How often does that happen?

Another wize decision would be to set the pay out at a (Max.)
of (5) business days and can be paid out within the (5) business
days (1-4) leaving us with quick steady pay outs and as the
member base expands and increases the Admin (Smarty) will
have up to (5) business to pay members their funds. wink.gif

Im pleased that we are having this discussion and I
encourage everyone to continue as we can help make
one of the most successful HYIP programs in History. biggrin.gif
- Banker


I'm glad you appreciate the fact I'm talking with you about the program before it's launch.
About the payments I think this is what I'm gonna do. I will set as payment term: "payments within 5 days" but in the beginning I will pay very fast , with the time when the payment requests are getting more and more I will just pay a bit slower but up to 5 days. I think it's right because you know it won't be same 50 withdraw requests and 5000 requests right ? biggrin.gif
I hope all of you will support and keep the discussion hot until the website launch which will be in few days.

QUOTE(gerons @ Nov 20 2006, 12:27 AM) [snapback]3198134[/snapback]

Wow...next great HYIP


Thank you. I really hope you will promote too when its officially launch. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Banker @ Nov 20 2006, 01:11 AM) [snapback]3198308[/snapback]

Auto withdrawals is a defenite No,No as the security and
integrity of the program is mandetory for the longevity
and long-term success of the program.

And as for managing your (PP) Accounts, using Robo-Form
is a defenite must , this will help add even more protection
to your (PP) Accounts making it extremely difficult for a
seasoned hacker to penetrate your passwords.

This discussion is off to an excellent start.
- Banker


Yes, I won't alow auto-withdraws but will process the payments fast.
About robo-form this is what I'm using always so it's not something new for me.

QUOTE(Oe_eO @ Nov 20 2006, 02:08 AM) [snapback]3198500[/snapback]

Yes, I defenitely join this site when it launced. biggrin.gif
When will your site launch?


It will launch within few days. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(FTW @ Nov 20 2006, 02:38 AM) [snapback]3198600[/snapback]

BTW....I never join a site when I hear rweports that pays are being made close to the 5th day or 7th day
reason is simple...what takes so long??!!!
Pays mon-Fri only is OK, but 5 days???


I should give myself the 5 days time-frame so when the website become big I can process all withdraws without a problem. If you was just playing games until now it's obvious that you don't know about the waiting time because almost all games don't grow very much.
There is also a second reason, by giving myself more time the trader I have hired will be able to produce higher returns and it won't be ponzi but a real program.
I really hope you understand that. I'm just doing it the best.
Al.Capone
I can't wait to see how will look this one biggrin.gif good job Smarty
jacu131
QUOTE(smart_i80 @ Nov 20 2006, 01:01 AM) [snapback]3196510[/snapback]

Hello dear friends.
This is the thread for discussing my hyip program. I have decided to name it Undreamedsuccess because I would like to create one of the best programs ever and give you success you have never dreamed of before. All that sounds nice but you are wondering if I will be the right person to do it?
I won't praise myself or ask you to trust me because it's a matter of time and effort to prove but I will give you an idea what I'm going to do and why I think you have to become an active in the discussion of my program.


For now I have just registered the domain name.
It's a simple website which is not the final version of course smile.gif The website which I will create will be much more attractive, nice and professional.

I will start with several points we should discuss
here:
1. Security.
2. Website design.
3. Program returns.
4. Advertising, promotion plans smile.gif5. Payment rules
6. Program terms

Now, let me start giving a simple description of what I'm thinking about.

1. The dedicated server is already ready and it's secured. A strong passport is protecting the access and also there is a ddos protection included. The script that will be installed is custom made and secured, so everything will be smooth with it. The funds are secured in the e-gold accounts and I will have a very high computer security so nobody won't access the EG account.

2. The design will be very nice , attractive and easy to use. I'm sure the site will look professional and I promise you that.

3. I'm now thinking about the following plans:
1Dream --- 24% daily for 5 days - total 120% (20%
total profit)
2Dream --- 15% daily for 10 days - total 150% (50%
total profit)
3Dream --- 220% after 20 days - total 220% (120% total
profit)
You can withdraw unlimited times per day/month after plan expire or daily if it's plan paying daily.

4. I'm going to offer several people promotion offer which I already started in one thread at MMG and more than 70 people responded. They will promote high for the success and steady growth of the program.

5. Because I'm an investor like you I don't like really the 50/50 or other kind of payment rules so I prefer to build the Undreamedsuccess without such rules because I think the program stablity is not up to this and it won't cause problems. I think it's all about right right handling of funds.

6.1 Forum - payment section where screenshots of the payments I'm making will be posted.
6.2 Blog with gold trading news and results
6.3 Program news
6.4 Vote for us
6.5 Information helping the new money makers to understand for what it's all about.
6.6 How to fund e-gold
6.7 Why you should invest in Undreamedsuccess - a page with an information and DD.
6.8 Advertising page - you will be able to purchase banners at my website.
6.9 Of course , faq , terms , contact us ......

7. Payments within 5 business days because it will be better for the management and the success of the program. Anyway faster payments will be made usual.

8. Probably later it will be a good idea to make the program legal when it grows and incorporate it somewhere , add bank wire deposit/withdraw option, may be offering phone line and so on. I think it's a good idea a website in different language also.

That's all for now. I will wait your comments, suggestions and let's discuss it while I'm creating the Undreamedsuccess. If there is no interest in the program I will not start it. I do not want to scam money but want to make something members can all enjoy and watch the success.

For live support you can use:
MSN: smartmsnid@hotmail.com
YIM: smartyid
or leave a message: +1 (305) 851-7532

The first 30 members that post in this thread with a suggestion or opinion will get 0.50 USD from me as thanks. Just write egold account # in post but make good suggestion please, not one line thing.
Thank you,
Will J wink.gif

It looks interesting.

Plans are good and resonable, there is a choice to do and every can choose what he like. And what about referral commission?

Security - it's one of the most important thing.

Desing is not important, but site should be functional. You should think about navigation on the site - it should be simple and intuitive. But design is only a supplement to the program.

Payments within 5 business days it's ok for me. This rule can make program more stable.

About 50/50 rule - I think it should be to have at least an active deposit (even minimal) to get paid for small deposits. I think 50/50 should be applied to big spenders, for example over $500. It's some hit and runners protection. It's my opinion.

QUOTE(Goldlisting @ Nov 20 2006, 01:52 AM) [snapback]3196642[/snapback]

Payments within 5 business days is a bit long.I hope you can use autowithdraw system,this can attractive more ppl's eyes.and more strong promotions is very need. smile.gif

NO!!! Manual payments of course, security is too important thing to make a compromise. But Smart - you should inform members every time when payments will be delayed.

QUOTE(mymoney @ Nov 20 2006, 04:59 AM) [snapback]3197321[/snapback]

Hello friend
Thanks for inviting me in this thread
as per your thread its nice to see your hard work towards to your project
just make sure that whatever the plan you make it must be profitable and for the purpose of the long time
some people from mmg allready know you but please post your details profile for us who dont know you properly. Explain it the whole thing whats come in your mind to make your own site rather than investing in HYIP as you say that you will be the investor. just give the details on the trading or revenue which comes in business to pay the members. that make more confident to invest in site
its just the opinion and advice will post later more
Thanks

I agree. Maybe some interviews?
ble24h
Hello Smarty and All the members here.

Thank you for invitation. As I told you before I like the idea of discussion. True is that hyip belong to all members of it, and all should feel responsibble for it.

1. Work hard and be honest, even when some will not bolive you RUN IT TILL THE END (couse the end will finnally come as always), you will find many good friends here, including me.

2. Security is the most important is true. You can use Neversay script. I use it and its really safe.
If you need some advise with servers and security i can help you.

3. Plans (24% for 5 days) with 5 day payout gives you the time to manage the funds on gold market, so i think for the real trade its very good idea. But you know the best how much profits you get from gold investing so if you should decide which plan is secured for us to invest. As you said you will manage the funds - you and your partner which is a trader should decide whis which plan you are able to generate stable income!!!

4. Good design is important, but most important is clear information of what you are doing. I know what im talking about wink.gif

5. Good Luck and im waitting for it same as othe members here.

Take Care
ble24h
A-level
can't wait to see how the site looks like..

I will not say some suggestions any more,but waiting for it..

clapping7.gif

I think the Plan:28% for 5 days payout gives you the time to manage the funds on gold market

It is better.

Best wishes & regards

Michael
$$$eeker
i'll will just wait for the launch of this prog. all suggestions seems good
smart_i80
My friends, what do you think about the idea "signup bonus" paid to e-gold $1 for the first 300 members ? It will cost me $300 but it will attract many right ? Something like: "in order to get $1 bonus you should post here your username and I will pay you to the E-gold I have on file for your account.
A-level
QUOTE(smart_i80 @ Nov 20 2006, 07:21 PM) [snapback]3198976[/snapback]

My friends, what do you think about the idea "signup bonus" paid to e-gold $1 for the first 300 members ? It will cost me $300 but it will attract many right ? Something like: "in order to get $1 bonus you should post here your username and I will pay you to the E-gold I have on file for your account.



To some extent,It is a good plan,

but many of people will sign up and take the money away...

sad.gif what about the once a people have a active ref u can pay him 1$ bonus..
ble24h
QUOTE(smart_i80 @ Nov 20 2006, 03:21 AM) [snapback]3198976[/snapback]

My friends, what do you think about the idea "signup bonus" paid to e-gold $1 for the first 300 members ? It will cost me $300 but it will attract many right ? Something like: "in order to get $1 bonus you should post here your username and I will pay you to the E-gold I have on file for your account.


Hmm, for me it looks little scammy. As all the programs which do such promotion did scamm.

Remembers: Pay on time, manage the funds, and do good promotion and members will come.
Even better that they come later.

For me its not neccesary.
smart_i80
QUOTE(Al.Capone @ Nov 20 2006, 03:56 AM) [snapback]3198897[/snapback]

I can't wait to see how will look this one biggrin.gif good job Smarty


Thank you Al.Capone biggrin.gif You have a nice nickname.
A-level
once a people have a active ref u can pay him 1$ bonus..what about this???

smart_i80
QUOTE(jacu131 @ Nov 20 2006, 04:10 AM) [snapback]3198937[/snapback]

It looks interesting.

Plans are good and resonable, there is a choice to do and every can choose what he like. And what about referral commission?

Security - it's one of the most important thing.

Desing is not important, but site should be functional. You should think about navigation on the site - it should be simple and intuitive. But design is only a supplement to the program.

Payments within 5 business days it's ok for me. This rule can make program more stable.

About 50/50 rule - I think it should be to have at least an active deposit (even minimal) to get paid for small deposits. I think 50/50 should be applied to big spenders, for example over $500. It's some hit and runners protection. It's my opinion.
NO!!! Manual payments of course, security is too important thing to make a compromise. But Smart - you should inform members every time when payments will be delayed.
I agree. Maybe some interviews?


Referral comission. It's a question I wanted to talk about with you.
Let's say it will be 6% but it will increase for promoter accounts depends on the active referrals ?
For example if you have more than 5 active referrals you will get 8%, if more than 15 active referrals 10% , if more than 50 active referrals 12% what do you guys think ?

The design will be simple but nice and easy to use.

I will think about 50/50 rule for may be biger deposits. I want to hear more opinions.
I can give an interview to Jude from Nobshyip because I personal like his recommendations and I think he is good guy.

QUOTE(ble24h @ Nov 20 2006, 04:13 AM) [snapback]3198945[/snapback]

Hello Smarty and All the members here.

Thank you for invitation. As I told you before I like the idea of discussion. True is that hyip belong to all members of it, and all should feel responsibble for it.

1. Work hard and be honest, even when some will not bolive you RUN IT TILL THE END (couse the end will finnally come as always), you will find many good friends here, including me.

2. Security is the most important is true. You can use Neversay script. I use it and its really safe.
If you need some advise with servers and security i can help you.

3. Plans (24% for 5 days) with 5 day payout gives you the time to manage the funds on gold market, so i think for the real trade its very good idea. But you know the best how much profits you get from gold investing so if you should decide which plan is secured for us to invest. As you said you will manage the funds - you and your partner which is a trader should decide whis which plan you are able to generate stable income!!!

4. Good design is important, but most important is clear information of what you are doing. I know what im talking about wink.gif

5. Good Luck and im waitting for it same as othe members here.

Take Care
ble24h


1. I know what you mean. I won't give up if I start with this. I know the people will get to know me with the time and they won't all trust me in the beginning. I have no problem with that. It's the same like in the real life.

2. Neversay is a good script but I know a better one which only few programs are using. It's not so public and popular but it's the best from security side, and it's easy to use .

3. Because I know this is why I come up with the plans smile.gif About the other things I prefer to discuss with you but the plans are set and they will be these. I have heard only positive opinions about them so I won't change them.

4. It's all clear. I think you are already seeing what I'm gonna do. I will always update you and asnwer all your questions.

5. Thank you.

QUOTE(ble24h @ Nov 20 2006, 04:28 AM) [snapback]3199009[/snapback]

Hmm, for me it looks little scammy. As all the programs which do such promotion did scamm.

Remembers: Pay on time, manage the funds, and do good promotion and members will come.
Even better that they come later.

For me its not neccesary.


Ok, thanks for the opinion. You might be right. Alot of programs programs did it in the past. I got this suggestion from one member who said it might boost the program membership. He is right but I don't think it's necessary. I just wanted to see what you think.
A-level
anyway, u may be face many diffcults,but if u can keep up with your faith, After the beginning it would be better..
smart_i80
QUOTE(A-level @ Nov 20 2006, 04:46 AM) [snapback]3199092[/snapback]

anyway, u may be face many diffcults,but if u can keep up with your faith, After the beginning it would be better..


I have no problem with that biggrin.gif The life is not easy tongue4.gif
jacu131
QUOTE(A-level @ Nov 20 2006, 12:30 PM) [snapback]3199018[/snapback]

once a people have a active ref u can pay him 1$ bonus..what about this???

Nope - you have referral commission from every referral tongue4.gif

QUOTE(smart_i80 @ Nov 20 2006, 12:42 PM) [snapback]3199026[/snapback]

Referral comission. It's a question I wanted to talk about with you.
Let's say it will be 6% but it will increase for promoter accounts depends on the active referrals ?
For example if you have more than 5 active referrals you will get 8%, if more than 15 active referrals 10% , if more than 50 active referrals 12% what do you guys think ?

Yeap, 6% is good, more for good promoters - I like this idea biggrin.gif
TFO
QUOTE
NO!!! Manual payments of course, security is too important thing to make a compromise. But Smart - you should inform members every time when payments will be delayed.

but auto is also good if properly secured !
smart_i80
QUOTE(TFO @ Nov 20 2006, 05:14 AM) [snapback]3199177[/snapback]

but auto is also good if properly secured !


It's not true. Make a search in google and you will see information and alot of cases where big and well secured sites were hacked. There are alot of good hackers and it's just not "secured" if the auto-withdraw is allowed.
It's good for hyips which are several days games (not serious programs). Make a search and you will see there aren't big programs (operating from more than 2-3 months which had auto-withdraw options). Do you think it's good idea the EG password to be online no matter the security and there to be 100-200k USD or more (for payouts) If one program manage for example 1 million atleast 100-200k USD will be there anytime for payouts.
Now let me show you one scenario:
I buy dedicated server. It's all secure and I start my website. After few months it's one of the bigest and hottest programs around. The admins of the hosting company see that and they decide to take a look in the encrypted file where the password is places tongue4.gif it won't be very hard. They decide to make a transfer from this e-gold they have an access to their EG , what's gonna happen then ??? I will be guilty and you will lose your money. No thanks.
I prefer to work in a better way.
atlantic
Hi all wave.gif

Thanks for inviting Smart_i80

its seams really a good plan

whith such a brainstorming from all members

sure we will reach a good Thing clapping7.gif
A-level
Glad to be here and share notion with u...
shdwgetpaid
Hello!
Now I will write few things
I hope it will help you a little

1. As you wrote, dedicated and secured server + ddos protection. Ofcourse best is custom script, but it have to be really functional and secured. Egold payment shouldnt be made on your own computer, I think you should have second PC (maybe laptop), with just installed windows (or linux) and all programs to secure you computer.

2. For sure design should look proffessional but it don't have to. Design have to be functional, clear and it have to load fast.

3.
QUOTE
1Dream --- 24% daily for 5 days - total 120% (20%
total profit)
2Dream --- 15% daily for 10 days - total 150% (50%
total profit)
3Dream --- 220% after 20 days - total 220% (120% total
profit)
You can withdraw unlimited times per day/month after plan expire or daily if it's plan paying daily.


220%? no way its too much!

I think this is too much, program should have smaller ROI but be more stable.

My suggestions is:
1 Dream - 15% daily for 8 days - total 120%
2 Dream - 12% daily for 11 days - total 132%
3 Dream - 11% daily for 14 days - total 154%

And 2 level refferals.
Level 1 - 10%
Level 2 - 5%

(if you think its too much try 8% and 4%)

4. Well, as you said you have promotors (im one of them dance9bh.gif), so you dont have to worry, I will promote everywhere cheer12.gif

5. Payments rules? Nothing special. Egold only. Max 5 business days waiting. I think withdraw once per 4 days will be good.

6 Ofcouse forum with payment screenshots, refferal payments etc.
Program news, with newest updates etc.
A lot of monitors with best statuses (diamond, gold, platinum etc.)
Tips and helps how to invest, secure computer, egold account.
Advertising on main site only, but advertise will be expensive.

7. Bank wire deposit/withdraw is very good idea, also site in few languages too, I can ofcouse translate site to polish. When program will grow (after about 2 months) you can make it legall, and get your own office, with phone line.

8. Live support, msn, icq, mail, phone etc.

And here is my few suggestions:
A lot of contests and bonuses.
Contest for best promotors etc.
Bonuses? hmm.. maybe "per 10 active refferals you get 2$ or something like that".
smart_i80
I will be here within 2 hours and I will asnwer your questions. See you soon.
Banker
QUOTE(smart_i80 @ Nov 19 2006, 04:01 PM) [snapback]3196510[/snapback]



3. I'm now thinking about the following plans:
1Dream --- 24% daily for 5 days - total 120% (20%
total profit)
2Dream --- 15% daily for 10 days - total 150% (50%
total profit)
3Dream --- 220% after 20 days - total 220% (120% total
profit)






R.O.I :


I think that you got the R.O.I on all (3) investment plans correctly.

I really do like the (15% for 10 days) Plan and once you can provide the info
page that includes the (DD) and a very thorough explaination of how the returns
are made, I believe that (220%) after (20) Days is excellent. The return is very
realistic as members will be able to recieve this return approximately once a month
making this kind of return extremely possible and NOT to over the top. smile.gif

Cheers to the success of Undreamedsuccess! biggrin.gif






- Banker
smart_i80
QUOTE(atlantic @ Nov 20 2006, 06:06 AM) [snapback]3199377[/snapback]

Hi all wave.gif

Thanks for inviting Smart_i80

its seams really a good plan

whith such a brainstorming from all members

sure we will reach a good Thing clapping7.gif


Thank you very much for your comment. I hope to see you after the real launch. smile.gif
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