Hey there everyone.

Recently a surf program that had corporate type sponsorship closed the doors. One reason they sited was that the big sponsors did not receive the desired results.

So here are some questions I hope you help me answer.

First: How do we get the big type of sponsors to look at this industry?

Second: How do we keep them around if and when they show up?

Third: Is the big corporate sponsorship something that we should even consider trying for?

I know there are alot of different variables to this equation. Your thoughts would be appreciated though.

someone belive that money to pay lets say 10% daily for surfing sites comes from advertisers who paid for "blind" auto or manual surf visitors?


its going to happen only if people responsible for ads are incompetent... not many such people will work for big companies


by making them blind or dump...


of course not.

Thanks for the optimism Sand

Well I agree with Sand, there is no way that any respectable company will advertise on auto/manual surfs and PTRs. People don't look at the ads, they just want money and that is why results for the advertisers are terrible and despite the low cost not worth the money.
The only ads you see in surfs and PTRs are for the other surfs and PTRs, money just goes in circles.

I don't think it's possible to get such sponsorship. All the traffic is fake and nobody won't pay even cent for it.

iv seen a site called htmail get a lot of decent websites advertising with them occasionally

I think it could be very hard to get sponsorship. I do believe that there are some that actually do look at the ads. But really, when you watch TV how many people actually watch the commercials, and yet people pay millions for some of those spots.

Anyway, just curious what people think. Any other ideas or thoughts on the matter?

The irony of autosurfing 'advertising' is that people do it to EARN money, not to SPEND it. Which is why you'll never see corporate advertising going into surfs as we know them, and any site or admin that says they have corporate sponsors is bs'ing you. And thats why im sick of hearing all these monitor sites with their videocasts feeding the masses this BS about corporate sponsors. Small businesses might consider autosurfs with high membership levels to advertise banner ads on their main page for example, or something like that, but nothing to the extent of supporting payouts.

That just might change with these ad pool sites. Some of them are catching on, memberbase growing, and since it's based on the ad pool concept, it won't fail and can go on indefinitely.

The ad pool sites arent immune from failure. There is a dependency on fresh funds in the same manner that traditional "x daily for x days" surf sites require. The only difference from what I understand is that the payouts are made on a % level daily equal for all members based on what comes in. If nothing comes in...well, there wont be anything to pay. Corporate sponsors wont buy it.

True, but it's not vunerable to being labelled a scam as easily, because there's no timeline for due expiries, therefore will last longer, and longevity is a potent thing in this biz. What is the number one cause of programs that fail prematurely other than scammers because they never have a real chance to get off the ground? The members... when the negativity starts because the payouts don't meet the required timeline for whatever reason, and the members start screaming scam, it's over.

I agree. Many programs have been destroyed because of members screaming scam. I really think if the right program is in place, the larger advertisers would try it out. Surfs are risky for advertising as is many other programs that are out there. The key I think is the target market.

Surfs have advertising for other surfs because of the target market. So perhaps therein lies the answer. Change the target market, and the advertisers will come....