No flaming but i'm a regular customer of Bank2gold and was surprised it stopped functioning due to upgrading. Went over to snapgold, they too have stopped functioning due to upgrading.
Found out this from asia1
HE thought it was a 'good deal' when he saw the offer on the Honda Club online forum.
Someone was offering him a electronic device which would make his car more fuel efficient for just $420, instead of the usual $600.
So Mr Simon took up the offer and paid up.
But he never got the device.
What he got, instead, was an audacious dare.
'Three sentences for all of you. Show this to the investigators, ' the scammer told him and his other alleged victims in a post on the website.
'Find me if you can. Catch me if you can. Jail me if you can.'
The scammer, who went by the name of 'Jude Tan', called himself 'Judeshonda' and allegedly took more than $11,000 of the victims' money in a car parts scam.
Mr Simon, 28, was one of his three alleged victims we spoke to who made police reports yesterday.
They were accompanied by one of the holders of the two bank accounts into which their money was paid.
Victims paid money into these accounts. The owners of these accounts then paid 'Jude Tan' an equivalent amount in 'e-gold' - a cyber currency that is backed by real gold.
The alleged victims believe at least 17 people have been similarly duped.
BULK DISCOUNTS
All ordered from the man who claimed to be able to get bulk discounts on sought-after car parts and components, such as racing gauges, sports exhaust systems and other electronics to enhance a car's performance.
According to Mr Simon, the man even had the cheek to track him down online.
'He posted more taunts like, 'Hey bro have you received it yet?' but I just ignored him.
'He is just happy that people are furious, so why let him be happy? I am not going to respond to his taunts.'
Another victim, who only wanted to be known as Mr Ang, said: 'I was willing to forgo the money that I lost but the taunts made me very angry.
'He was so arrogant to taunt us like that.'
Mr Ang, 29, lost $285 to the scammer, while another lost over $4,600.
When the scammer's profile was blocked on the online forum, he created a new profile to continue his taunts.
'You have banned my nicks. I need to post here to leave my traces... The traces are there for you to track me down and that is impossible... I can never be caught,' he posted on the forum.
The scammer allegedly registered himself as a member on the Singapore Honda Club forum on 14 Oct.
He then posted his offer the next day to do group purchases offering discounts on various car parts and accessories.
He claimed that he was travelling to Germany to purchase group orders.
According to the victims, the prices were 20 to 40 per cent cheaper than the market price here.
The catch was that the scammer wanted full payment upfront.
Two local bank accounts were allegedly given to different victims by the scammer.
The scammer told the victims he would arrive in Singapore last Wednesday night and would contact the buyers to deliver and install the parts on their cars.
Said Mr Ang: 'I called his handphone on Wednesday night at 10pm, but there was a voice message saying that the customer was not available.
'I made several calls the next day, but again the line did not ring.
'I then discovered through the online forum that other customers also did not receive their orders and he had been active on another forum as well.'
CLAIMS TO BE S'POREAN
Mr Simon said the scammer called him a few days after he placed his order to ask him if he wanted the device he ordered installed.
'He claims he's a Singaporean who has left Singapore. He sounded like one, so I didn't suspect anything.'
Over the next few days, the victims contacted each other and agreed to meet.
They also contacted the bank they transferred the money to.
The account holder was alerted by the bank and agreed to give the victims his contact details.
The account holder, who only wanted to be known as Vincent, said: 'I felt I needed to meet these people to understand what is happening and after knowing about this, it is my responsibility to help in any way possible.'
He said he had no idea what was happening until he was contacted by the bank.
Mr Vincent, who is a virtual currency trader, said: 'I suspected something was wrong when the bank contacted me.
'I went home to check my transactions, but my numbers tallied.'
He claimed he did not know the scammer as he had used a sophisticated form of Internet transaction known as virtual currency.
The currency is difficult to trace.
However, the victims are confident that the culprit would be traced eventually.
Said a victim by the name of Leonard: 'I wouldn't think it's not traceable, but it has got messy.
'The culprit still has to convert the virtual currency back to cash at some point and he would need a bank account to do it.'
I believe vincent refers to Bank2gold. They didnt mention on the 2nd trader and i am guessing it is snapgold since both stop operating around the same time.
My question is ARE WE STILL SAFE Online?
Both snapgold and bank2gold are good exchangers and with them involved in this scam, will the government start to step in and check on our online transactions? Will we be dragged into the case of the scam since snapgold and bank2gold have so many transactions daily? Are snapgold and bank2gold going to operate again or are they forced to stop all operation?
Could Snapgold be the same as Bank2gold? are they the same owner? I just notice i have no information on them except they are online exchanger.
I'm loss for words after reading the article and hopefully Vincent and snapgold can come out to clarify this matter.
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QUOTE(vonne77 @ Nov 8 2006, 01:07 AM) [snapback]3131428[/snapback] No flaming but i'm a regular customer of Bank2gold and was surprised it stopped functioning due to upgrading. Went over to snapgold, they too have stopped functioning due to upgrading. Found out this from asia1 HE thought it was a 'good deal' when he saw the offer on the Honda Club online forum. Someone was offering him a electronic device which would make his car more fuel efficient for just $420, instead of the usual $600. So Mr Simon took up the offer and paid up. But he never got the device. What he got, instead, was an audacious dare. 'Three sentences for all of you. Show this to the investigators, ' the scammer told him and his other alleged victims in a post on the website. 'Find me if you can. Catch me if you can. Jail me if you can.' The scammer, who went by the name of 'Jude Tan', called himself 'Judeshonda' and allegedly took more than $11,000 of the victims' money in a car parts scam. Mr Simon, 28, was one of his three alleged victims we spoke to who made police reports yesterday. They were accompanied by one of the holders of the two bank accounts into which their money was paid. Victims paid money into these accounts. The owners of these accounts then paid 'Jude Tan' an equivalent amount in 'e-gold' - a cyber currency that is backed by real gold. The alleged victims believe at least 17 people have been similarly duped. BULK DISCOUNTS All ordered from the man who claimed to be able to get bulk discounts on sought-after car parts and components, such as racing gauges, sports exhaust systems and other electronics to enhance a car's performance. According to Mr Simon, the man even had the cheek to track him down online. 'He posted more taunts like, 'Hey bro have you received it yet?' but I just ignored him. 'He is just happy that people are furious, so why let him be happy? I am not going to respond to his taunts.' Another victim, who only wanted to be known as Mr Ang, said: 'I was willing to forgo the money that I lost but the taunts made me very angry. 'He was so arrogant to taunt us like that.' Mr Ang, 29, lost $285 to the scammer, while another lost over $4,600. When the scammer's profile was blocked on the online forum, he created a new profile to continue his taunts. 'You have banned my nicks. I need to post here to leave my traces... The traces are there for you to track me down and that is impossible... I can never be caught,' he posted on the forum. The scammer allegedly registered himself as a member on the Singapore Honda Club forum on 14 Oct. He then posted his offer the next day to do group purchases offering discounts on various car parts and accessories. He claimed that he was travelling to Germany to purchase group orders. According to the victims, the prices were 20 to 40 per cent cheaper than the market price here. The catch was that the scammer wanted full payment upfront. Two local bank accounts were allegedly given to different victims by the scammer. The scammer told the victims he would arrive in Singapore last Wednesday night and would contact the buyers to deliver and install the parts on their cars. Said Mr Ang: 'I called his handphone on Wednesday night at 10pm, but there was a voice message saying that the customer was not available. 'I made several calls the next day, but again the line did not ring. 'I then discovered through the online forum that other customers also did not receive their orders and he had been active on another forum as well.' CLAIMS TO BE S'POREAN Mr Simon said the scammer called him a few days after he placed his order to ask him if he wanted the device he ordered installed. 'He claims he's a Singaporean who has left Singapore. He sounded like one, so I didn't suspect anything.' Over the next few days, the victims contacted each other and agreed to meet. They also contacted the bank they transferred the money to. The account holder was alerted by the bank and agreed to give the victims his contact details. The account holder, who only wanted to be known as Vincent, said: 'I felt I needed to meet these people to understand what is happening and after knowing about this, it is my responsibility to help in any way possible.' He said he had no idea what was happening until he was contacted by the bank. Mr Vincent, who is a virtual currency trader, said: 'I suspected something was wrong when the bank contacted me. 'I went home to check my transactions, but my numbers tallied.' He claimed he did not know the scammer as he had used a sophisticated form of Internet transaction known as virtual currency. The currency is difficult to trace. However, the victims are confident that the culprit would be traced eventually. Said a victim by the name of Leonard: 'I wouldn't think it's not traceable, but it has got messy. 'The culprit still has to convert the virtual currency back to cash at some point and he would need a bank account to do it.' I believe vincent refers to Bank2gold. They didnt mention on the 2nd trader and i am guessing it is snapgold since both stop operating around the same time. My question is ARE WE STILL SAFE Online? Both snapgold and bank2gold are good exchangers and with them involved in this scam, will the government start to step in and check on our online transactions? Will we be dragged into the case of the scam since snapgold and bank2gold have so many transactions daily? Are snapgold and bank2gold going to operate again or are they forced to stop all operation? Could Snapgold be the same as Bank2gold? are they the same owner? I just notice i have no information on them except they are online exchanger. I'm loss for words after reading the article and hopefully Vincent and snapgold can come out to clarify this matter. I read this article too.. but bank2gold's name is vincent? Snapgold and Bank2gold should be under different owners.. I think you shouldn't be too worried... doesn't affect us much anyway... at least for me.. 
I absolutely cannot see any connection between Bank2Gold or SnapGold to this scam from the above report. Please advice what make you draw this conclusion.
I dont think that they are diredctly involved in the scam.
QUOTE(mjand2345 @ Nov 8 2006, 05:43 PM) [snapback]3131574[/snapback] I absolutely cannot see any connection between Bank2Gold or SnapGold to this scam from the above report. Please advice what make you draw this conclusion. This is natural for me to think this way because this article is published last week, almost the same time when bank2gold stops functioning. This is just too coincidence. I hope i am wrong otherwise my reasons are valid to think both are the ones involve. What kind of upgrading are they having that takes more than 5 days? emails weren't replied too. QUOTE(vonne77 @ Nov 8 2006, 06:36 PM) [snapback]3131795[/snapback] This is natural for me to think this way because this article is published last week, almost the same time when bank2gold stops functioning. This is just too coincidence. I hope i am wrong otherwise my reasons are valid to think both are the ones involve. What kind of upgrading are they having that takes more than 5 days? emails weren't replied too. That is just your own convenient assumption. Until it is proven, I don't think it is fair to associate both of them to this case at the moment. Even if they are involved, unless they are that person that intentionally scammed, otherwise, I cant see where the fault lies with them. Nothing has been proven at this point, all is just conjecture.
I have sold e-gold to snapgold quite a number of times without any problem, but now I guess I have to stop using it at least for the time being.
QUOTE(vonne77 @ Nov 8 2006, 05:07 PM) [snapback]3131428[/snapback] No flaming but i'm a regular customer of Bank2gold and was surprised it stopped functioning due to upgrading. Went over to snapgold, they too have stopped functioning due to upgrading. Found out this from asia1 HE thought it was a 'good deal' when he saw the offer on the Honda Club online forum. Someone was offering him a electronic device which would make his car more fuel efficient for just $420, instead of the usual $600. So Mr Simon took up the offer and paid up. But he never got the device. What he got, instead, was an audacious dare. 'Three sentences for all of you. Show this to the investigators, ' the scammer told him and his other alleged victims in a post on the website. 'Find me if you can. Catch me if you can. Jail me if you can.' The scammer, who went by the name of 'Jude Tan', called himself 'Judeshonda' and allegedly took more than $11,000 of the victims' money in a car parts scam. Mr Simon, 28, was one of his three alleged victims we spoke to who made police reports yesterday. They were accompanied by one of the holders of the two bank accounts into which their money was paid. Victims paid money into these accounts. The owners of these accounts then paid 'Jude Tan' an equivalent amount in 'e-gold' - a cyber currency that is backed by real gold. The alleged victims believe at least 17 people have been similarly duped. BULK DISCOUNTS All ordered from the man who claimed to be able to get bulk discounts on sought-after car parts and components, such as racing gauges, sports exhaust systems and other electronics to enhance a car's performance. According to Mr Simon, the man even had the cheek to track him down online. 'He posted more taunts like, 'Hey bro have you received it yet?' but I just ignored him. 'He is just happy that people are furious, so why let him be happy? I am not going to respond to his taunts.' Another victim, who only wanted to be known as Mr Ang, said: 'I was willing to forgo the money that I lost but the taunts made me very angry. 'He was so arrogant to taunt us like that.' Mr Ang, 29, lost $285 to the scammer, while another lost over $4,600. When the scammer's profile was blocked on the online forum, he created a new profile to continue his taunts. 'You have banned my nicks. I need to post here to leave my traces... The traces are there for you to track me down and that is impossible... I can never be caught,' he posted on the forum. The scammer allegedly registered himself as a member on the Singapore Honda Club forum on 14 Oct. He then posted his offer the next day to do group purchases offering discounts on various car parts and accessories. He claimed that he was travelling to Germany to purchase group orders. According to the victims, the prices were 20 to 40 per cent cheaper than the market price here. The catch was that the scammer wanted full payment upfront. Two local bank accounts were allegedly given to different victims by the scammer. The scammer told the victims he would arrive in Singapore last Wednesday night and would contact the buyers to deliver and install the parts on their cars. Said Mr Ang: 'I called his handphone on Wednesday night at 10pm, but there was a voice message saying that the customer was not available. 'I made several calls the next day, but again the line did not ring. 'I then discovered through the online forum that other customers also did not receive their orders and he had been active on another forum as well.' CLAIMS TO BE S'POREAN Mr Simon said the scammer called him a few days after he placed his order to ask him if he wanted the device he ordered installed. 'He claims he's a Singaporean who has left Singapore. He sounded like one, so I didn't suspect anything.' Over the next few days, the victims contacted each other and agreed to meet. They also contacted the bank they transferred the money to. The account holder was alerted by the bank and agreed to give the victims his contact details. The account holder, who only wanted to be known as Vincent, said: 'I felt I needed to meet these people to understand what is happening and after knowing about this, it is my responsibility to help in any way possible.' He said he had no idea what was happening until he was contacted by the bank. Mr Vincent, who is a virtual currency trader, said: 'I suspected something was wrong when the bank contacted me. 'I went home to check my transactions, but my numbers tallied.' He claimed he did not know the scammer as he had used a sophisticated form of Internet transaction known as virtual currency. The currency is difficult to trace. However, the victims are confident that the culprit would be traced eventually. Said a victim by the name of Leonard: 'I wouldn't think it's not traceable, but it has got messy. 'The culprit still has to convert the virtual currency back to cash at some point and he would need a bank account to do it.' I believe vincent refers to Bank2gold. They didnt mention on the 2nd trader and i am guessing it is snapgold since both stop operating around the same time. My question is ARE WE STILL SAFE Online? Both snapgold and bank2gold are good exchangers and with them involved in this scam, will the government start to step in and check on our online transactions? Will we be dragged into the case of the scam since snapgold and bank2gold have so many transactions daily? Are snapgold and bank2gold going to operate again or are they forced to stop all operation? Could Snapgold be the same as Bank2gold? are they the same owner? I just notice i have no information on them except they are online exchanger. I'm loss for words after reading the article and hopefully Vincent and snapgold can come out to clarify this matter. If the victims have transferred money to the bank accounts. It should be there. Definitely they will be an online transaction records which will be tally with the victims' acct number with snapgold and bank2gold. By not operating at the moment, i believe its because they are assisting in the investigations and accounts might have been freeze. Guess its up to the police to find out from the bank who's the culprit. Scammer must have done some exchange with them to acquire the bank account numbers. So it might be any of the member here. its pretty hard to believe that our internet banking service has been compromise by the scammer since vincent mention that the numbers tallied. But its a possiblilty. QUOTE(vonne77 @ Nov 8 2006, 10:07 AM) [snapback]3131428[/snapback] No flaming but i'm a regular customer of Bank2gold and was surprised it stopped functioning due to upgrading. Went over to snapgold, they too have stopped functioning due to upgrading. Found out this from asia1 HE thought it was a 'good deal' when he saw the offer on the Honda Club online forum. Someone was offering him a electronic device which would make his car more fuel efficient for just $420, instead of the usual $600. So Mr Simon took up the offer and paid up. But he never got the device. What he got, instead, was an audacious dare. 'Three sentences for all of you. Show this to the investigators, ' the scammer told him and his other alleged victims in a post on the website. 'Find me if you can. Catch me if you can. Jail me if you can.' The scammer, who went by the name of 'Jude Tan', called himself 'Judeshonda' and allegedly took more than $11,000 of the victims' money in a car parts scam. Mr Simon, 28, was one of his three alleged victims we spoke to who made police reports yesterday. They were accompanied by one of the holders of the two bank accounts into which their money was paid. Victims paid money into these accounts. The owners of these accounts then paid 'Jude Tan' an equivalent amount in 'e-gold' - a cyber currency that is backed by real gold. The alleged victims believe at least 17 people have been similarly duped. BULK DISCOUNTS All ordered from the man who claimed to be able to get bulk discounts on sought-after car parts and components, such as racing gauges, sports exhaust systems and other electronics to enhance a car's performance. According to Mr Simon, the man even had the cheek to track him down online. 'He posted more taunts like, 'Hey bro have you received it yet?' but I just ignored him. 'He is just happy that people are furious, so why let him be happy? I am not going to respond to his taunts.' Another victim, who only wanted to be known as Mr Ang, said: 'I was willing to forgo the money that I lost but the taunts made me very angry. 'He was so arrogant to taunt us like that.' Mr Ang, 29, lost $285 to the scammer, while another lost over $4,600. When the scammer's profile was blocked on the online forum, he created a new profile to continue his taunts. 'You have banned my nicks. I need to post here to leave my traces... The traces are there for you to track me down and that is impossible... I can never be caught,' he posted on the forum. The scammer allegedly registered himself as a member on the Singapore Honda Club forum on 14 Oct. He then posted his offer the next day to do group purchases offering discounts on various car parts and accessories. He claimed that he was travelling to Germany to purchase group orders. According to the victims, the prices were 20 to 40 per cent cheaper than the market price here. The catch was that the scammer wanted full payment upfront. Two local bank accounts were allegedly given to different victims by the scammer. The scammer told the victims he would arrive in Singapore last Wednesday night and would contact the buyers to deliver and install the parts on their cars. Said Mr Ang: 'I called his handphone on Wednesday night at 10pm, but there was a voice message saying that the customer was not available. 'I made several calls the next day, but again the line did not ring. 'I then discovered through the online forum that other customers also did not receive their orders and he had been active on another forum as well.' CLAIMS TO BE S'POREAN Mr Simon said the scammer called him a few days after he placed his order to ask him if he wanted the device he ordered installed. 'He claims he's a Singaporean who has left Singapore. He sounded like one, so I didn't suspect anything.' Over the next few days, the victims contacted each other and agreed to meet. They also contacted the bank they transferred the money to. The account holder was alerted by the bank and agreed to give the victims his contact details. The account holder, who only wanted to be known as Vincent, said: 'I felt I needed to meet these people to understand what is happening and after knowing about this, it is my responsibility to help in any way possible.' He said he had no idea what was happening until he was contacted by the bank. Mr Vincent, who is a virtual currency trader, said: 'I suspected something was wrong when the bank contacted me. 'I went home to check my transactions, but my numbers tallied.' He claimed he did not know the scammer as he had used a sophisticated form of Internet transaction known as virtual currency. The currency is difficult to trace. However, the victims are confident that the culprit would be traced eventually. Said a victim by the name of Leonard: 'I wouldn't think it's not traceable, but it has got messy. 'The culprit still has to convert the virtual currency back to cash at some point and he would need a bank account to do it.' I believe vincent refers to Bank2gold. They didnt mention on the 2nd trader and i am guessing it is snapgold since both stop operating around the same time. My question is ARE WE STILL SAFE Online? Both snapgold and bank2gold are good exchangers and with them involved in this scam, will the government start to step in and check on our online transactions? Will we be dragged into the case of the scam since snapgold and bank2gold have so many transactions daily? Are snapgold and bank2gold going to operate again or are they forced to stop all operation? Could Snapgold be the same as Bank2gold? are they the same owner? I just notice i have no information on them except they are online exchanger. I'm loss for words after reading the article and hopefully Vincent and snapgold can come out to clarify this matter. Dunno what to say, pretty shocked here as well 
Do the victims pay the cheater in e-gold?
QUOTE(Aloha @ Nov 9 2006, 08:24 AM) [snapback]3139166[/snapback] Do the victims pay the cheater in e-gold? My guess is that the scammer told the victims to transfer the money to the exchangers via internet banking while he gets the egold into his egold acc..
Both sites are online. On Bank2Gold, the rates were last updated on 5 Nov. Did the site upgrading have anything to do with the US elections?
QUOTE(sahmom @ Nov 9 2006, 05:53 PM) [snapback]3141494[/snapback] Both sites are online. On Bank2Gold, the rates were last updated on 5 Nov. Did the site upgrading have anything to do with the US elections? what do u mean? both sites are still offline 
QUOTE(sunai @ Nov 9 2006, 11:57 PM) [snapback]3142939[/snapback] what do u mean? both sites are still offline I think she means online as in the sites are still there... but no livechat though..
their off line disappearance match the recent e-gold news of buying cheap car parts from scammer..
and till now , the exchangers still MIA.. we have to wait .. or just email the exchangers 
All scammer(s) has to rot and die. We lose a lot like this. Example, look at www.notionhyip.com, the stop paying since mid October and yet there are still people who do not check their stats, makes deposit.
If snapgold, or bank2gold are really a bunch of scams, then the law shall catch up with them. But really, this online scam thingy is getting out of hand. Agree? [edit] no ref links please [/edit] QUOTE(Intkill @ Nov 12 2006, 12:55 AM) [snapback]3151561[/snapback] All scammer(s) has to rot and die. We lose a lot like this. Example, look at www.notionhyip.com, the stop paying since mid October and yet there are still people who do not check their stats, makes deposit. If snapgold, or bank2gold are really a bunch of scams, then the law shall catch up with them. But really, this online scam thingy is getting out of hand. Agree? [edit] no ref links please [/edit] They are NOT scammers. They have been used by scammers. Please read the message carefully. 
involved in scam doesn't have to mean directly it could mean indirectly as in this case....
lol... some people just dont read..
Snapgold is online
QUOTE(hyip_researcher @ Nov 14 2006, 03:22 PM) [snapback]3165545[/snapback] Snapgold is online yeap, for a few days already . wondering when is Bank2gold coming back. love thier rates 
ok, there is nothing wrong with snapgold. I've just transacted with them.
QUOTE(kelvin888 @ Nov 14 2006, 08:05 PM) [snapback]3166508[/snapback] ok, there is nothing wrong with snapgold. I've just transacted with them. why is livechat not on? i waiting for it to be online |
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