MMG staff members are not investment monitor, our job is to ensure that people follow the rules and conduct themselves in a proper manner. It is the members job to keep threads updated and post their payout status. If people are serious about making money, they will spend some time to read a thread to gather information and make a decision from there.

No serious investor and MMg membrs complain this ever and if they wuld be only few in # but majority of the memerbs really lovein time actions of MMG.

Then how MMG would be the most reliable and competent source of information abt the status of sites.If it stop monitoring the things and site status.

I always found MMG the most reliable MONITOR ever i dont beleave in monitors but in MMG as MMg is providing free and unbise services to both readers and admins.

If MMg stop monitoring the things and make some division then what would be the use of MMG.

Indeed. I prefer things the old way

Exactly jacob



Well, MMG is not a monitor
It's a forum for people to get together and chat and have fun

The real monitor is the PEOPLE'
It is their responsibility to know whats going on with a program, not MMG's

Anyways
What is done is done

i didn't know mmg was a monitor

No doubt.

But if Forum is providing some additional services without charges than it will really help members and will increase popularity of that forum.

It will take a few days to settle down, but atleast members can now decide for themself. It will be a big shock to some people to actually take time reading part of the tread before they go and press the button to spend.

Im not sure MMG did either

Ishtiaque, as long as members are still discussing a program you can still extract the same useful information from the thread and use it to make a decision.

Edited

If MMG had wanted to be a monitor they would have been

Popularity doesn't matter
I would say MMG is already the most popular without other services
It's fine as it is

and that is the main problem on removing closed/scam section. Now people will invest in scam sites J/k!

I voted to let as it is. But no problem we will be used to. May be some people will learn to make their own research and not blaming MMG.

Most closed programs will filter down pretty quickly. A few of the more popular ones may stay on the first page for a little while, but interest wanes as people give up on their payouts and move on to new programs.

I think it will take a couple days before MMG members catch on and figure everything out, but it should be smooth sailing from there.

As always, the staff will be active enforcing the same rules

strange decision . . .

Yep
The staff is very quick and efficient
I suppose if there are any issues, that nifty little button called Report can always be utilized

It will take some getting used to
But I like the decision

See the positive side:

- Program admins will consider to advertise more than before (Mainly Sticky advertising), and also in blogs
- People will enter more often to blogs to get the information instantly (and more work to the bloggers)

So I think is good for both sides Blog owners and MMG staff

So none of the scam topics got deleted though?? Right?

You shouldn't delete them you know, just keep them on the board and let them die down

So do i .


I chosed the 2nd opinion .

We can discuss the scam programs, and scammer there.


If remove ,where we should do that ?

Dont like it, but whatever

the really good thing about this is that most of us will no longer find ourselves listed as most active in the closed/scam sections anymore . . .

Correct, all of the topics are still around. They were moved into the various subforums.

Yep. You're right!

Wasn't that alot of topics to move

Plus Paid poster as long as they cought will really enjoy to keep the thread active to confusse the membrs.

If a member is too lazy to read back and see that a program is paying, then they must not be smart enough to invest, so what happens to their money happens

People need to start reading for themselves IMHO

haha yeah good point

Yes, but you can figure out who are those paid posters...Just that we don't have proofs to tell the admins "Those are paid posters ban them".

Yes it would be.

But why not the things would be simple instead to make them more complex.

I voted "Keep things the way they are", without Closed/Scam and On Hold sections MMG would never be the same anymore, its just like ban all "cops" from our city and let scammers rule the board, it would be chaos!


Anyway just my 2 cents!

We are still watching over everything just like we always do. We just won't be moving topics back and forth.

Benifit of doubt will always go to scammers and cheaters as they will plan well to make use of single section and will easily can do the job before runing with much more as compare now.

I agree with you 100% ...Keep things the way they are....dont change those things which made mmg popular and different from others!

WOW, I'm surprised seeing it
I'm against of it, it's bad choice. Why did you do it? In poll 'Keep things the way they are.' won

It's a simple reorganization. Members should always do their own DD. Just because there isn't a scam section doesnt make it any easier for scammers to scam people.

yeah, scammers really are much, much smarter than any of us -- let's, let's go create our own monitor or something to add to all the rest of the really, really great monitors out there already!

victims of the scammers -- rise up!

wow when I found a bunch of closed threads mixed in with the active sites I was wondering what the heck was going on...

I can see MMG's side, but.

People are still talking in threads of programs which have closed months ago so they will keep brining them up to the top and mingling with the open sites (basically causes a nightmare to look for specific threads if you are active in alot)

I was all for keeping the scam/closed folders I just did not think moving a paying program was really correct...

hopefully this will work out for all...

Take care
Patrick

i'd just like to be able to create a folder of my own in the control area to keep them all straight now --


might that be possible???

Should we remove the "closed/scam" and "on hold" sections completely?
Remove the "closed/scam" and "on hold" sections completely and post what we find about the admins in the
threads. [ 23 ] [30.67%]

Keep things the way they are. [ 52 ] [69.33%]


Admin started the pool by him self?

Will admin honour its result or he would take decession by him self his own descreation?

The poll was to gather opinions only.

I see some peeps saying you have to read back a thread to know what the real information is about a site, now what if some real heavy forum posters (both paid or heavily involved) post a lot of posts....so the thread is awefully long....now what with peeps with a slow connection.....Or members that have not all day to read there...

This is a forum, a community alright...so we should be here to keep each other updated....

Posts like smooth surfing ...make me laugh..as surfing is alright...but do they pay? ... I want to know if a site has paid you, or stay updated about the things that are going on with the program right now.... When a site is closed for upgrades... It is clear that there is no use to have it in the current active programs section....

For myself, I don't look only here to know if a site is reliable or not ...to join.... And I will remember most membernames that have a lot of smooth surfing posts....so I won't fall for the reliable and trusted MMG member thing there... On the other hand I will remember real help from a member and when they try to run a thing I will forgive them too when it comes to an end....!

Now what is the best thing to do for future....who knows....? as that is what future means.....it has to come and is unknown.... But having all autosurfs (both running and paying, as running and scamming, as closed ones) in the same section is not that informative....

This forum is supposed to be a community to make money together as a group....now how can we do that if the scammers are not published.... MoneyloserGroup??? Don't be afraid to have a real face....stand for something.... Reliability.... and when someone is gone to the wrong section (usually shown in due time...) just say I am sorry and I am happy to move you back to the active section.....! No harm meant, just information.... !

Yeah, but with just a couple of guys aka "paid posters" admin/mods "comments" can be easily "left behind" and we know that are a lot of ppl here who just don't read all the pages and then it could be "too late" for them!

I know, its a very complicated situation and i really understand admins situation with this one, whatever the choice that will be made here MMG will always have my support!

Admin please dont do that , lsten to the majority as this is a special case.

Decession has already been taken or not yet?

If already taken than what would be the use of that opinion as majority is against that decession?

agreed.

I vote the poll be closed.

People are still voting and there's really no point in it now.

The decision was made and we have to live with it.

For one the mods do an AMAZING job with this compared to most other forums. That would be gone..

If it happens..

How about a poll on all programs threads which only mods can see the results of. The votes can be checked - whether they are made by known users etc, and put up a removeable warning flag or something on the thread to give quick viewers a rough idea without having to open the thread and go through it

How about a BIGGER CP area where we can fit ALL SUBSCRIBED THREADS not just 4 ?

Anyway, great job with moving folders mods, I am impressed

lol i think earlier you said -



lol

agreed, at least the poll should be closed!

Bad decision taken here IMHO..that section was very important for members of MMG to keep themselves away from those programs, yes members have to read to know either the program has begun scaming or stoped paying but once it is a known scam or a closed program already it should be there in its section away from the current operating programs, at least to protect newbies.

By doing that, members are the losers and scammers are the winners

I think that was a misunderstanding. My interpretation of that was that it was up to members to convince us one way or anther, both with votes, and their subsequent arguments.