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What's Your Opinion On Pagerank?
multimastery
post Jul 25 2011, 05:38 PM
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Is pagerank important to you - or is it just a crock? Me...I really don't put too much value on pagerank these days. I seen too much crap with higher PR and a lot of quality pages with lower PR...so I really don't know what to think about this. Plus I've seen some sites with lower pagerank outrank some higher PR sites in the SERPs. And another thing is that Google took so long to update the last PR that I wonder how important it really is to them. So for me I really to think about pagerank too much; it's just an unreliable judgement to me. How about you?


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johnywalter
post Jul 26 2011, 01:15 AM
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I don't really check my website and it's pages page rank anymore. I don't really see it as something that is that much of a "factor" to anything lately. I mean whenever I check out my competitors and my own ranking, sometimes some of my pages or other competitors pages are ranking better than those pages that has PR. I think there has been some article that it is not that much important anymore but well still have to see. I'll observe the websites in the next few days and lets see the effect of PR.


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post Jul 26 2011, 10:28 PM
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Personally, I think they're there only as Bragging Rights for Webmasters. Like when they hang out in real life and they go, "Hey what's your blog's PR?". Then the other with a high-trafficked site will go on with his PR bragging speech. Sort of something like that.

But in a more serious term, PR is an important factor in offsite SEO. Because if you'll notice in different SEO-inclined sites like a backlink checker perhaps, they advertise getting a backlink on a site with PR7 or so sites. That in and of itself is already a testament to the importance of PR.


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post Jul 27 2011, 03:02 AM
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QUOTE (pingmonkey @ Jul 27 2011, 02:28 PM) *
Personally, I think they're there only as Bragging Rights for Webmasters. Like when they hang out in real life and they go, "Hey what's your blog's PR?". Then the other with a high-trafficked site will go on with his PR bragging speech. Sort of something like that.

But in a more serious term, PR is an important factor in offsite SEO. Because if you'll notice in different SEO-inclined sites like a backlink checker perhaps, they advertise getting a backlink on a site with PR7 or so sites. That in and of itself is already a testament to the importance of PR.



There was a time when people actually considered to look at it that way. But then again, interms of the bragging rights, people or SEO can always say "how much does your site earn?". then PR would be so irrelevant. interms of the services that some SEO offer regarding links from high PR websites, it does seem enticing and I have to say that at some point in the past, I was kinda interested in availing some of those services. Then, news came out that PR is not that important anymore, since by observation it has been true, why still avail those service?


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post Jul 27 2011, 06:13 PM
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Yeah a lot of people do use it for bragging rights...but I'd rather brag about income! Gimme a website with no page rank that makes me plenty of profit over a high PR site any day.


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post Jul 31 2011, 02:49 AM
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QUOTE (multimastery @ Jul 27 2011, 07:13 PM) *
Yeah a lot of people do use it for bragging rights...but I'd rather brag about income! Gimme a website with no page rank that makes me plenty of profit over a high PR site any day.


It'd be weird to say that PR is *not* important, but if you're not making the dough, then what's the big deal about PR? I think the jury is out on this one and it's pretty much a one way decision: PR is bunk.
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post Jul 31 2011, 06:33 AM
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The position in the search engine has little effect


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post Jul 31 2011, 03:35 PM
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QUOTE (movies @ Jul 31 2011, 06:33 AM) *
The position in the search engine has little effect


This thread is about Pagerank, not search engine rankings. Those are two different things.


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post Aug 1 2011, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE (multimastery @ Jul 31 2011, 03:35 PM) *
This thread is about Pagerank, not search engine rankings. Those are two different things.


I kind of think that a search position is a huge deal.. I tend to very rarely click any further than page 2-3 when I'm searching for something..
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post Aug 1 2011, 03:48 AM
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QUOTE (multimastery @ Aug 1 2011, 07:35 AM) *
This thread is about Pagerank, not search engine rankings. Those are two different things.



could be 2 entities but can be connected. There was a time when people believed (and google actually did) that pageranks affect the SERP (search engine ranking positions). the higher page rank your pages have, the higher chances it could get good position. but then again, it is no longer the case.


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post Aug 1 2011, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE (johnywalter @ Aug 1 2011, 03:48 AM) *
could be 2 entities but can be connected. There was a time when people believed (and google actually did) that pageranks affect the SERP (search engine ranking positions). the higher page rank your pages have, the higher chances it could get good position. but then again, it is no longer the case.


Would you think that spending any significant time with PR to be beneficial or not really ?
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post Aug 2 2011, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE (kobamod @ Aug 1 2011, 03:59 AM) *
Would you think that spending any significant time with PR to be beneficial or not really ?



Put it like this...I would stress myself out over it. Just do your best to provide a quality site and promote regularly and targeted - and that's really all you can do. Pagerank is unreliable and oftentimes unfair as I've stated from the beginning. Who knows when the next PR update will be...could takes more than a year like the last update. You can wait to worry about Pagerank if you want to - but I'm gonna go out and get this web money PR or not! Remember: Regular people could care less about PR (and most likely have no idea what it is). All they know is if they like what you have to offer or not. Simple as that. The only time you might really need to be majorly concerned about Page rank is if you want to sell your site - or perhaps if you're marketing to marketers (being that they are usually the only ones concerned about this stuff).


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post Aug 3 2011, 06:59 AM
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QUOTE (kobamod @ Aug 1 2011, 07:59 PM) *
Would you think that spending any significant time with PR to be beneficial or not really ?



I do a lot of SEO stuff and I don't really look at Page rank factor anymore. Of course I still build links but not to increase page rank. When the events caffeine, mayhem (mayday) and panda happened, the major algo changes, you've just got to think that there are other elements being considered now to get good SERP.


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post Aug 3 2011, 09:59 AM
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I thought it helps heaps if you have a high PR. Gets you on the front page of google easier? I heard that you could generate better traffic if someone with a higher PR links you on his site.


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post Aug 3 2011, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE (vandals @ Aug 3 2011, 09:59 AM) *
I thought it helps heaps if you have a high PR. Gets you on the front page of google easier? I heard that you could generate better traffic if someone with a higher PR links you on his site.


In some cases it may help. But this analogy has been proven to be inconsistent. As previously stated, I have seen sites with lower PR outrank higher PR sites sooo may times.

And as far as generating better traffic...maybe. But a site the has a lower PR but higher Alexa could bring you just as good or better traffic. Just because a site is "labeled" with a higher PR, doesn't necessarily mean it has better or more traffic.


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