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post Dec 26 2011, 05:21 AM
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QUOTE (YorkNew @ Dec 26 2011, 06:10 AM) *
Here's what they promise at wazzub:

That you can rake up $3125 per month if you refer, say, five people and they refer next five and so on down five levels, with you being the zeroth level. So, such an ideal average pyramid of users looks like this:

level 0: Me
level 1: 1 x 5 = 5 newly registered people
level 2: 5 x 5 = 25 newly registered people
level 3: 25 x 5 = 125 newly registered people
level 4: 125 x 5 = 625 newly registered people
level 5: 625 x 5 = 3125 newly registered people
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Total people in one pyramid: 3906 (1 + 5 + 25 + 125 + 625 + 3125)

Wazzub's expenditure per one pyramid (sorted by level, then totaled):

level 0: $3905 <---------- $5 + $25 + $125 + $625 + $3125
level 1: $3900 <----------- 5 x ($5 + $25 + $125 + $625) = 5 x $780
level 2: $3875 <----------- 25 x ($5 + $25 + $125) = 25 x $155
level 3: $3750 <----------- 125 x ($5 + $25) = 125 x $30
level 4: $3125 <----------- 625 x $5
level 5: $0 <---------------- 3125 x $0
TOTAL: $18555 <---------- $3905 + $3900 + $3875 + $3750 + $3125 + $0


So, let's see some conclusions....

With one pyramid, Wazzub gets 3906 new emails, but only 6 people from the pyramid get a nice pay ($3125 or $780 per month). the other 3900 people in the pyramid get some silly amount hardly worth their energy and their risk of spamming their friends. Thus: you need your own pyramid if you want to make any substantial dough. Only the pharaohs can live high on the hog; the rest are suckahs. So, how many pyramids, realistically, can Wazzub sustain?

At Wazzzub they say they'd like to be like Google, which from its advertisers earns $3,000,000,000 a month. Well, Google attracts so many advertisers because there is high chance that users will see the ads -- that's because users spend a huge amount of their internet time on Google. Why do they spend so much time? Because Google, beside having just a search engine, has the best one, offers awesome email client, awesome apps, plus everyone has already gotten themselves used to Google that it's become a second nature to people. Google has become a part of the whole world's culture, and there are throngs of people at Google who work diligently to make it remain that way. And now comes some Wazzub that promises it will lure away from Google many ad partners. But, how? Wazzub's search engine is shitty (otherwise, they would've given some info on it before hunting all these emails. Wazzub doesn't offer anything else Google offers.... therefore, people will not spend much of their time at Wazzub... therefore, advertisers will not want to divert their investment from Google toward Wazzub. Yes, Wazzub did become viral. God job. Yes, Wazzub might have more than a couple of million subscribers by Spring 2012. But the advertisers know that it is not about 'viral', and not even just about the numbers; it's all about exposure. The subscribers of Warezzub will not look at the ads. Their time they will still spend on google.com, because that's where they'll continue doing their searches. Wazzub thinks that with their claimed $2,000,000 investment they can win over Google's users, on whom Google spends billions of dollars? No, Wazzub doesn't think such a stupid thing. It is the people who partake in the viral phenomenon that stupidly don't think about how Wazzub can get the needed funds.

However, for the sake of argument, let's say Wazzub manages to suck up around $100,000,000 from the advertisers each month (let's be very, very idealistic). OK, that means that $50,000,000 will go to Wazzub's users. How many mentioned "pharaohs" will get their $3125 or $780 a month? Let's see:

50,000,000 dollars / 18555 dollars per pyramid = around 2700 pyramids. Wazzub can sustain 2700 such "average" pyramids and then it has no more money. That's 2700 pyramids x 6 "pharaohs" per pyramid = around 16000 pharaohs.

OK, 16,000 happy people with nice paychecks. But out of how many? How many people are there in total in those 2700 pyramids? Let's see.


3906 people per pyramid x 2700 pyramids = 10,546,200 people.


So, 16 thousand out of 10 and a half million. So, for every happy user, there will be 659 grumpy suckers who will go around talking how Wazzub sucks and is a waste of time! Just how will that help Wazzub attract the advertisers?!

Wazzub is doomed to fail quickly.

That would be no problem, if we could at least get some nice cash off the first few months. Yeah, but, the problem is that Wazzub will not have much money to offer in the first few months. Wazzub only hopes (actually, pretends it's hoping) that they will get more money as the user base widens over time, which would in turn attract the advertisers, one by one. First, it's a foolish hope, as the numbers above already show. Second, it's a fake hope, because they've done the same numbers too, surely, but it is the email addresses they want.

A few days ago, when I was told about Wazzub, it sounded kind of promising, but now that I've done the numbers, I think the whole hoopla they did just to wait for the emails to flood in.


Interesting piece there. I was wondering how does Wazzub intend to compete with Google, Yahoo, Msn, et al. I was trying to find out whether those other search engines did a similar marketing campaign to Wazzub when they were in pre-launch. Look at Google+, they didn't offer money for members even though they're trying to rival facebook.


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post Dec 26 2011, 07:19 AM
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No where do they promise everyone will earn that amount! Everyone needs to invite others in order to earn here so everyone has an equal opportunity to earn something if they do a little work and no where do they tell people to spam so stop making things up to support your claims!


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post Dec 26 2011, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE (marq7 @ Dec 26 2011, 02:21 PM) *
Interesting piece there. I was wondering how does Wazzub intend to compete with Google, Yahoo, Msn, et al. I was trying to find out whether those other search engines did a similar marketing campaign to Wazzub when they were in pre-launch. Look at Google+, they didn't offer money for members even though they're trying to rival facebook.


The one and only way Wazzub can financially compete with Google, Yahoo and MSN is by providing better or same technology. Wazzub is totally mistaken if it thinks, or if it wants us to think, that it can financially compete with those huge players simply by coming up with this viral way to attract subscribers. It's easy to start a viral phenomenon (e.g. I can easily start some funny videos on YouTube, celeb porn videos, virus hoaxes, etc.), but it's a whole different matter to sustain profit with it. You have to actually offer something people truly need, if you want to attain big success. Google, Yahoo and MSN all offer something people actually can't do without.

Anyway, a friend of mine complained, after reading my post, that it isn't realistic that "for every happy user, there will be 659 grumpy suckers who will go around talking how Wazzub sucks", because I had assumed that for the supposed $50 million, all 2700 pyramids will be detached from each other. He said, there will be less pyramids than that because they will have more than five levels so will overlap. The more they overlap, the smaller the ratio of happy vs. unhappy subsribers. OK, true. So, I've done another calculation, taking the best possible scenario for the 5-referrals model. The truth falls somewhere between my earlier and my new, following calculation.

The $50 million is disbursed in its entirety to one larger pyramid with 9 levels.

level 1: 1 x 5 = 5 newly registered people
level 2: 5 x 5 = 25 newly registered people
level 3: 25 x 5 = 125 newly registered people
level 4: 125 x 5 = 625 newly registered people
level 5: 625 x 5 = 3125 newly registered people
level 6: 3125 x 5 = 15.625 newly registered people
level 7: 15.625 x 5 = 78.125 newly registered people
level 8: 78.125 x 5 = 390.625 newly registered people
level 9: 390.625 x 5 = 1.953. 125 newly registered people

There are 1 + 5 + 25 + 125 + 625 = 756 5-level pyramids there, and many more 4-level, 3-level, 2-level and 1-level pyramids. I don't think I need to reproduce the entire calculation with the exact numbers, but I've done it, of course. In this scheme, there are 2,441,406 people, which is less than the 10 million from the previously described scheme. Because of the 5-levels-max-per-person limit, there are 3-level, 4-level and 5-level pyramids which make a subscriber happy, because they churn out monthly $430, $2930 and $3125, respectively. The 2-level pyramid is worthless, for it culls only $55 per month. Altogether, there are 19,531 worthy pyramids. So, this time, there are 19,531 happy people out of 2,441,406.

So, notice that even in this best-case scenario for the average 5-referrals model and the $50 mill advertisers' investment, for every happy person there are still full 125 disappointed people who will smear Wazzub. Between 659 and 125, we can infer the realistic number is 350. Not much is changed. The ratio 1 : 350, of people who will praise Wazzub vs. those who will be disappointed and jaded - is still a terrible ratio.


This is why I said, and I will repeat it, that the novel scheme itself will not make Wazzub attractive to advertisers. The only way to keep us millions of subscribers staring at Wazzub's web page, and, therefore, to attract the advertisers whose money will make us happy, is that Wazzub comes up with a great technology. They have not come up with anything great, however. I know that, because if they had, they would have given both to us and to the advertisers a peek at that technology in order to attract as many interested parties as possible.

Now, one may think that, over time, Wazzup could invest money (more than the measly $2,000,000) in the technology (and in the servers, the buildings, the programmers and other staff, etc.). No. They need a lot of money upfront. They are not able to just sit back and earn it gradually. Because, the only way they can get into the advertiser's pockets at all is to prove to them that we subscribers will stare at their web page. Which we will not do come April, and the advertisers know it - because Wazzub doesn't have good technology already.

So, why is Wazzub then doing all this promotion? Because they will earn just enough to make themselves rich. From a few advertiser they'll manage to squeeze out several million dollars, and half of that will be theirs for the rest of their lives. How will they be able to squeeze that money out? By saying to the advertisers: "Hey, look at all these countless emails we gathered. If nothing, we can spam their inboxes with your ads. Give us at least some money, come on, please."

This will not be a "We the billions of users activate the power of we" story, but "We the few Wazzub shareholders activate the power of them fools" story.

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post Dec 26 2011, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE (mmgcjm @ Dec 26 2011, 04:19 PM) *
No where do they promise everyone will earn that amount!

Ha ha, they don't "promise", that's true, but they do say "you could". Which is a lie, because they put forth that message to every person. But, much smaller percentage "could" than what people have been led to believe. Including you. Countless people are starting to show interest in this viral case, but I've shown above that less than only around 15000 of them will get monthly checks that are of any worth. That is, if Wazzub even succeeds in attracting the $100,000,000 of ads per month. Which, I think, is a false hope. So, not even 15000 will have anything to brag about. In short, noone "could".



QUOTE (mmgcjm @ Dec 26 2011, 04:19 PM) *
Everyone needs to invite others in order to earn here so everyone has an equal opportunity to earn something if they do a little work

Look, the problem is not the users. The subscriptions are going great. The problem is the lack of technology. People who subscribe will just not spend their time on Wazzub page. Which means the advertiser are not about to fund this project. Which means no money for anyone. Just a little bit for those few guys in Wazzub.


QUOTE (mmgcjm @ Dec 26 2011, 04:19 PM) *
and no where do they tell people to spam so stop making things up to support your claims!

"Spam" is the verb I used for sending your friends and family messages about earning money online which they will not earn. You may think that is not an appropriate verb. I think it's perfectly appropriate, but I respect your right not to agree with my view.

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post Dec 26 2011, 09:29 AM
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No one really knows exactly how this will pan out, but there is nothing wrong with using the term "could". That is a very subjective term and is very appropriate for this opportunity.


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QUOTE (mmgcjm @ Dec 26 2011, 06:29 PM) *
No one really knows exactly how this will pan out, but there is nothing wrong with using the term "could". That is a very subjective term and is very appropriate for this opportunity.

That's either a lie or foolishness. People at Wazzub know that the mere getting millions of subscribers won't attract all that many advertisers. The advertisers want people to spend time on Wazzub. How will Wazzub make all of us spend time on their page? They can't. So, your dreams are unrealistic from the start.

The search engine as the means of gaining ad exposure was a bad idea. They would've done much better if they had applied this scheme to a news page, a game page or even a porn page.
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I think you should listen to the conference Thursday to get a better idea of ​​WAZZUB

after all we are still in pre-registration will be launched in 3 months

if not earn $ 1 per member is an estimate based on revenue from google currently in early WAZZUB it will be much less

Finally, what I have heard there will not be the search engine but also a video service (like youtube I think)Causual games, and probably something else

frankly it is too early for this get an idea

and then if we do not pay anything we loose just a Gmail email to be rotten by Spam, and although it will create another Gmail account and then finished


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QUOTE (polo26 @ Dec 26 2011, 07:00 PM) *
I think you should listen to the conference Thursday to get a better idea of €‹€‹WAZZUB

after all we are still in pre-registration will be launched in 3 months

if not earn $ 1 per member is an estimate based on revenue from google currently in early WAZZUB it will be much less

Finally, what I have heard there will not be the search engine but also a video service (like youtube I think)Causual games, and probably something else

frankly it is too early for this get an idea

and then if we do not pay anything we loose just a Gmail email to be rotten by Spam, and although it will create another Gmail account and then finished

So, there will be a way to make the users stay on the webpage, after all? That is very good news. That means the advertisers might actually show interest.
Unfortunately, the fact that $1 is not a frozen amount, but Wazzub might not be able to reach that 100-cents goal for years to come is a very bad news. It discourages people from joining and breeds ground for stronger resentment when they do find out the truth. Also, it means the "pharaohs" might have to wait years in order to move up from "paupers" to "pharaohs".

But the truth about the ratio of pharaohs vs. paupers remains. You have to be among only several thousand people, in a pool of millions, in order to earn anything substantial. That terrible ratio is something Wazzub has not talked about and probably will not talk about.

Yes, I'll try to attend the conference on Thursday.

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QUOTE (mmgcjm @ Dec 26 2011, 02:29 PM) *
No one really knows exactly how this will pan out, but there is nothing wrong with using the term "could". That is a very subjective term and is very appropriate for this opportunity.


Like the new avatar and happy holidays thanks for all you do for us on this forum.


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it's on the history of $1 is marketing this is what I found on the site



that's even written in small do the return depends on the evolution of the program


after all I would find it strange that we can donate directly 1$ to the launch , I do not know how much time it will take to achieve this goal, but for members who do not informed what they will be disappointed, I hope that admin sent a clear explanation before the official launch

yes there will be after the "pharaohs" and the "paupers" as in any affiliate program one that will have 1000 referrals earn more than that it will be 0 refferal logically

this project will be a project that will build on the longterm

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QUOTE (doomcrew @ Dec 26 2011, 02:07 PM) *
Like the new avatar and happy holidays thanks for all you do for us on this forum.



Thanks and you're welcome! Your avatar is pretty funny!


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Is the conference by Wazzub? How does one get to be on the conference?


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hello angelboy

you must register on this page http://www.wiziq.com/online-class/699935-w...ring-phenomenon


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http://scam.com/showthread.php?p=1116376

I found this. Do you think it could be a scam? For a billion dollar company there should be more information on it. Don't you think? Who is behind this company?
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post Dec 28 2011, 06:25 AM
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admin has said he will give all the information on the main Investors after the Prelaunch of WAZZUB, we'll see


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