While not necessarily 'proof', upon re-reading, the evidence strongly supports his statement.

So, Dave is in some kind of psychological game you are playing, where he needs to agree or disagree with your observations.
If he even makes the slighest of mistakes in just his statements(all humans are bound to make mistakes), you will pounce on him and make him psychologically unstable.
Is that it, or I've understood the game incorrectly?

Proof may have been ever so slightly the wrong word... OK, let me try this.

You 'observe' that there is no 'free flow' of information from me on the T2 program in this thread.

Can you please gather some evidence that make your observations credible. If you don't wish to do this, then can you please explain exactly what makes you think that there is no flow of information?

Maybe I am missing something, but I was of the personal opinion that I was quite good at keeping in touch with the member issues, as well as the 'non-member' issues.

I suppose you can't please everyone.

Such is life.

There is no need for further debate on an issue of a complete misunderstanding. The member was never banned. It says BANNED when this occurs. Someone should have taken a screenshot last night for proof, I guess. Also, the member posted on the forum after a mod quoted Dave’s answer to his/ her question again. They most likely saw the answer that time. There’s a lot to read, I can see how the misunderstanding occurred.

Thank you, which is exactly what I have taken care to do... Put the story straight. Some people see this as 'jumping on the defensive'.

Hmmmm...

Lets analyze that.

Someone quotes misleading information... another person puts the correct information into play... That person is seen as being defensive... The person stops posting... That person is observed as of cutting off information... More misinformation is soon forthcoming.

Catch 22?

I can't speak for Dave, but I doubt seriously he sees this as a 'game'. I certainly don't, (aside from an occasional diversion to the silly side to relieve tensions.) I post based upon my observations and experiences, (as we all do) and others can make the choice to agree or not, either privately, (to themselves) or publicly, ( in the form of an agreeing post or rebuttal)

That's kind of a long way to say, yes I think you've misunderstood.

My exact observation was "when people think there is not a free flow of....... If you feel the information you provide is adequate to keep people informed, go with it! While I'm sure both of us could launch volumes of information about how and why communication works or doesn't, that is way off topic to this thread so I'll leave it here. YBH has an excellent point.

Can you show me where it states that multiple accounts in the forum are not allowed? And are you saying multiple accounts of the same person or multiple accounts of different persons from the same ip address? When I signed up, I read the forum rules, and I did not see any mention of multiple accounts of different persons not allowed unless they just recently added it after we got banned. I didn't know that I had to contact her, and I wasn't able to contact her after we both got banned from the forum, please imagine yourself in our shoes. It doesn't make sense that the terms on the website state you are allowed to have multiple accounts from the same ip address but the forum doesn't.



They shouldn't ban you until after they have all the facts. That's like you're guilty until proven innocent, it should be the opposite. I didn't even get any warnings from you guys, they just ban without warnings, imagine yourself in our shoes.

I read your response about the 40k, but you didn't mention what happened to it so you didn't fully answer my question. I did pm you twice but the first pm you seemed irritated/mad and told me to leave the program if I continued to ask such questions and the second pm had nothing to do with that question. And your lolalola suggested I should leave too if I'm not comfortable with your answer. If I wanted to leave, I'll leave on my own. I don't need people telling me that. And I wasn't irate at all, but I was disappointed at how you guys handle things. Not even an apology from you guys.



How coincidentally that I got sidelined after asking a question like this but claims it has nothing to do with the question.




I was never banned? What do call someone who can't access any part of the forum when try to log in?



I appreciate you fixing this. But these problems could've been prevented had you guys been more careful and diligent.

No, metinlife, you weren't banned ever. Your warn status was changed. I had it happen to me when I first joined MMG. I felt terrible, so I do understand how you feel. I have also had members banned on MMG for multiple accounts contact me in a panic. You have to go through some documents to prove you are actually 2 people using the same IP address on MMG. It's a pretty standard rule on forums due to past scammers reinventing themselves. It's meant to protect members. I'm sorry that you were caught in that rule as a precaution. It happens often across the forums. Not sure if Dave states the multiple user rule in the forum rules. It something that needs to be looked into and corrected if necessary. Thanks for bringing it up.

How many more times do I need to explain???

You were NOT banned. Your account was paused because of multiple account concerns.

Have you noticed that the main program and forum accounts are linked????? Hence, main program members can log in to the forum with their T2 logins.

A snippet from the T2 terms and conditions.

We will allow multiple accounts from the same IP address, however, individual accounts must be registered with its own email address and payment processor account. We do not allow members to sponsor from the same address purely for the purpose of collecting referral commissions. Any unusual behaviour will be flagged by our system monitors and investigated for unusual behaviour.

I would say that in view of the fact that the membership database in the main T2 program is linked to that of the forum, then it is within my rights to extend this to the forum, and where there is an event where 2 separate members have the same IP address in the forum, then that is enough reason to spark an investigation of the 2 accounts in the main program.

In this case... That is what happened.

There is a BIG difference between being banned and having your warn status put to 10 till investigation is complete.

The next thing I want to say to you, I will do so by PM, if you wish to share it with the thread, by all means do so.

This topic is for discussion of the T2 program, please discuss "forum business" in the proper forum. I believe everyone involved in this discussion is able to post there now.

Credit where credit is due. Good on you for fixing this up so quickly



And one of the bans was for joining T2 program then the forum and simply saying hello

So 40K just vanished without a trace or explanation?

He invested it in a good surf site. go, Elmer go.

I would prefer to keep silent and wait till 1st Feb instead of all these arguments.