Yes... I do apologize for all of that,.. If it was a ponzi like the program in your sig, i would be able to steal things that have been paid for with REAL money and converted to something that exists in fairyland. then go and legally patent that process.....lol You don't consider the commissions that are being converted to DP's as real money?

I have done a reset, and NOTHING is converted into suspicious matrices that no member has any control over and no set payment schedule apart from adhoc payments sprinkled over the member base to keep the payment proofs rolling out.'Real' businesses or investments do not seem to require "payment proofs" to survive!

Yes... It all seems alien when an admin does something that is FAIR across the board. Get used to it, I know its not easy when you have lived in ponzi dreamland for so long. But get used to it.

All those above suspicions have been answered in the T2 forum thread, I won't bother posting here because most are from NON-MEMBERS!!!

I can see this thread returning to crap.... So for now... no updates here from me.[/b]

Yes, I was only joking around. I sincerely hope this program is able to turn itself around. I mean WOW we can't even have fun on here anymore. I certainly wasn't attacking anyone, just responding to someone else's response. I mean REALLY goodness you can't say anything about this program unless it's ALL ROSES & SUNSHINE. We live in the REAL world, everything isn't always ROSES & SUNSHINE. People are just voicing their concerns. As someone else stated learn to let things roll off. If you know you're legit & on the up and up, then these minor comments should not upset you at all. I just laugh at people when they make ASSUMPTIONS about me that I know are NOT TRUE. I'd advise you learn to do the same. I'm just saying.

Yes, I was only joking around. I sincerely hope this program is able to turn itself around. I mean WOW we can't even have fun on here anymore. I certainly wasn't attacking anyone, just responding to someone else's response. I mean REALLY goodness you can't say anything about this program unless it's ALL ROSES & SUNSHINE. We live in the REAL world, everything isn't always ROSES & SUNSHINE. People are just voicing their concerns. As someone else stated learn to let things roll off. If you know you're legit & on the up and up, then these minor comments should not upset you at all. I just laugh at people when they make ASSUMPTIONS about me that I know are NOT TRUE. I'd advise you learn to do the same. I'm just saying.

The program will turn itself around and it's doing it in short fashion. Dave has been up front. I think too much and I don't personally believe he has a duty and obligation to put any updates here nor provide updates to non-members. I wouldn't.

You're right - everything isn't roses and sunshine. No problems in calling it like it is with the caveat that what it's being called is accurate. I think we can all agree on that.

We have a great opportunity coming up.

I'm a member; I don't have access to updates.

Interesting that you consider real questions and concerns to be "crap". Or is it your position that only "members" that can access your forum can have real concerns? What about the members that cannot access the forum because they can't or won't upgrade until your 'reset' if finalized? One 'real' question that probably needs an answer: Have you restructured the new subscription schedule so that members aren't getting shafted?

I've seen the updates posted here.

This was all answered in the main update that told of the 1st Feb restart.

In simple terms the $10 subsciption is no more. All members must subscribe but it will be on a slide scale. If you got 1 or 2 DP's you pay nothing. If you got 100 DP's you pay a lot. Everyone pays on the same day which is smart as it will reduce the workload since there will be no need to deal with subscriptions every day like they did before.

What you need to pay will depend on how many DPs you have in your account on the 1st (first) day of the month, and the amount will start at $0.00 per month and rise depending on the amount of DPs you have.
Here is the charging scale.


DPs...............Fee
0 – 3.............$0.00
4 – 10............$5.00
11 – 20...........$10.00
21 – 40...........$15.00
41 – 70...........$20.00
71 – 100..........$30.00
101 – 150.........$40.00
151 – 200.........$50.00
201 – 300.........$60.00
301 – 400.........$70.00
401 – 500.........$80.00
500 – 1000........$100.00
1000 – 2000.......$200.00
2000 – 2400.......$250.00

Some of these charges may seem horrendously high, but really they are not. For Example:

You have 4 DPs… we are paying you $24 a month, you are paying us $5 = $19 profit.
You have 45 DPs… we are paying you $270 a month, you are paying $20 = $250 profit.
You have 410 DPs we are paying you $2460 a month, you are paying us $80 = $2380 profit.
You have 1200 DPs we are paying you $7200 a month, you are paying us $200 = $7000 profit

Oh, you mean this?

The math needs some serious help, unless I'm missing something. For example:
For 3 DPs you pay $30 and collect 2% for 75 days, or $45 total. Minus the $30 paid = $15 profit. OK so far?
Now for 4 DPs, you pay $40, and collect 2% for 75 days, or $60. Now, however instead of just the $40 cost, you are also paying 2 1/2 months of subscriptions at $5 per month, or $12.50 total. Added to the $40, now your total cost is $52.50, for a net of $7.50. This is true at every break point, buy one more DP and get shafted by $7.50.Maybe the scale needs to be changed so that buying another DP doesn't result in a less profit.

We have set up the first function of the reset.

If you go to your member area, you will notice on the dashboard that there is a temporary 'reset' link.

When you click on this link, it will open a page which displays all your 'out of pocket' deposits and all of your withdrawals (if any).

This is just for your information at the moment, but will give you a good idea of what you will be starting off with. These balances will determine what level of subscription you qualify for.

No referral commissions have been included yet, but this shall be added in the coming days.

Anyone with 'active referrals' will have their subscription level determined after the first wave of commissions have been produced from the first 'balance to DP purchases'.

Members with NO 'active referrals', will have their subscription level assessed prior to the first 'balance to DP purchase' as mentioned above.

MONEYNETWORKFORUM,COM

We will be setting up the new T2 forum over the coming days, and we would like to politely request a small task from all the members.

Because we will be selling MNF.com to raise money to add to the system cash. I am asking if all members who do not use the MNF forum, to kindly add one or two posts to the forum to build up relevant content to make it look a lot more attractive to potential buyers.

It would be great if you could please check the board index and find sections that have the least amount of topics or replies, and donate some of your genius to the cause, to bring them up to standard and balance out the figures. Makes the forum look a lot more impressive. This also looks great to Google and gives the new owner a boost in their SEO and general ranking.

Please try to keep your topics or posts as relevant to the particular section or topic as possible. This would be a fantastic help to the program.

This would also help our developer to test the 'url scraping' for the new 'task management' software.

My target is to get +25,000 posts in the stats board.

Thank you so much in advance.

Will keep you updates as much as possible.

Regards

Dave.

Yes, but he said he's not doing that from now on. You spoke to that in your previous post.

Oh, you mean this?

The math needs some serious help, unless I'm missing something. For example:
For 3 DPs you pay $30 and collect 2% for 75 days, or $45 total. Minus the $30 paid = $15 profit. OK so far?
Now for 4 DPs, you pay $40, and collect 2% for 75 days, or $60. Now, however instead of just the $40 cost, you are also paying 2 1/2 months of subscriptions at $5 per month, or $12.50 total. Added to the $40, now your total cost is $52.50, for a net of $7.50. This is true at every break point, buy one more DP and get shafted by $7.50.Maybe the scale needs to be changed so that buying another DP doesn't result in a less profit.

Well, you apparently forgot the Dream Matrix position that they will receive which will give 60$ more.
That is a great rise in income for buying just one more position from my perspective.

A short update



Hope it was helpful for all.

Admin, did you get everything back from Chris? Last time I remember there was 200k and then you mention there was 160k so 40k missing.

Its actually closer to 130K with about 30K still with AP which is 'rolling reserve' which is held back for 6 months to accommodate refunding claims and chargebacks. Common for this type of account.

Also the 160K figure was an estimate off the top of my head after calculating the AP withdrawals to date up to the point where I lost the API connection in December.

I would have answered Elmer if he was a member, and it was any of his business. Its up to you if you want to give him his info for his investigation.