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post Feb 1 2008, 07:25 AM
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QUOTE(Dorky @ Feb 1 2008, 05:52 AM) [snapback]4652264[/snapback]
Sorry for snipping you there jacu131, great discussion going on here..

It is a shame you don't remember stormpay as you weren't in the industry then, as you missed the prime example of a program called 12DailyPro that through support of it's members together with a brilliant admin,set the bench mark in this industry. I am sure other surfers would agree with me in saying.. those were the days.. Many members in MMG today came here because of this program and it was their introduction to autosurf.. and many have stayed all looking for "that" program to fill the boots of 12DP.

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I agree 100% with you Dorky. Those were the days!! 12DP was one of the best times in my
onlinelife.Im sorry to say that I think we never gone experience something like it again, but I think Dave and Gotenks are in the same class as Charis was and that they gone give us all
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post Feb 1 2008, 07:34 AM
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QUOTE(ExecutiveLady @ Feb 1 2008, 08:20 AM) [snapback]4652444[/snapback]
My humble opinion is that Profit-sharing programs simply don't work.

Once the intial high rate days are over,the vicious cycle kicks in.ROI drops,deposit drops,membership stall,deposits drop,ROI drops etc,etc and with time it gets more and more difficult if not impossible to recover.

As long as it settles somewhere at 1-2% we're ding great!

There was only one successful Profit-Share program- rather 2, CEPCoast and Coastin88 and those were manipulated to stay at a fixed rate.When they were let to perform naturally they failed too.

I've joined SPP- hope I can get a couple of payouts esewhere so I can start on the 4th! biggrin.gif

Once again, the high rate is not a problem if the program is advertised well.

And members should get out of "this is just a game " mentality.This time, let's try to build something out of this. smile.gif


Totally agree with EL. To date, I've not seen a profit share program that has been able to withstand the test of time. The initial high ROI last a very short period of time, and once it sinks, there seems to be no way to bring it back up.

Good point about CEP and Coasting.

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post Feb 1 2008, 07:50 AM
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OK, romeoromeo, you have some good points there but you do not know the facts, I know you are just concerned and made up your mind that I just wanted more money... but you chose to ignore me, so I won't even join in your discussion. Just let the track record prove you wrong.

Another thing, it got me thinking last night about what Twenty24Four said and now what selenite (and many others) just recommended. It is either put up an anti-HAR option or lower the rates to add more stability. Since the program hasn't started yet, we can still do the changes. Which would you choose?

a. Implement a 50/50? Meaning you have to purchase at least half of your withdrawal amount before the system allows your withdrawal to go through. For example, you bought $100 worth of ad packs,... after 10 days, your earned a rebate of $140 provided you surfed everyday,... you can only withdraw that amount if you purchase $70 worth of ad packs again.

or

b. Change rate from '14% daily for 10 days' to '10% daily for 14 days'?

Remember, stability is the key on both of this options. Let no one tell you otherwise.

OR c. Leave it as it is and see what happens next. wink.gif

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post Feb 1 2008, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(exist1 @ Feb 1 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]4652516[/snapback]
OK, romeoromeo, you have some good points there but you do not know the facts, I know you are just concerned and made up your mind that I just wanted more money... but you chose to ignore me, so I won't even join in your discussion. Just let the track record prove you wrong.

Another thing, it got me thinking last night about what Twenty24Four said and now what selenite (and many others) just recommended. It is either put up an anti-HAR option or lower the rates to add more stability. Since the program hasn't started yet, we can still do the changes. Which would you choose?

a. Implement a 50/50? Meaning you have to purchase at least half of your withdrawal amount before the system allows your withdrawal to go through. For example, you bought $100 worth of ad packs,... after 10 days, your earned a rebate of $140 provided you surfed everyday,... you can only withdraw that amount if you purchase $70 worth of ad packs again.

or

b. Change rate from '14% daily for 10 days' to '10% daily for 14 days'?

Remember, stability is the key on both of this options. Let no one tell you otherwise.

exist1

For me - both options smile.gif

50/50 rule - there will be less hars. So more members will try to support program, there will be some guarantee of returning money back to system.

10%x14 - this is good also. Yeap, 14%x10 it is maybe too fast.

If I must choose one of them - 50/50 rule.

My fast opinion, must go see you later peace.gif


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post Feb 1 2008, 08:33 AM
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QUOTE(exist1 @ Feb 1 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]4652516[/snapback]
OK, romeoromeo, you have some good points there but you do not know the facts, I know you are just concerned and made up your mind that I just wanted more money... but you chose to ignore me, so I won't even join in your discussion. Just let the track record prove you wrong.

Another thing, it got me thinking last night about what Twenty24Four said and now what selenite (and many others) just recommended. It is either put up an anti-HAR option or lower the rates to add more stability. Since the program hasn't started yet, we can still do the changes. Which would you choose?

a. Implement a 50/50? Meaning you have to purchase at least half of your withdrawal amount before the system allows your withdrawal to go through. For example, you bought $100 worth of ad packs,... after 10 days, your earned a rebate of $140 provided you surfed everyday,... you can only withdraw that amount if you purchase $70 worth of ad packs again.

or

b. Change rate from '14% daily for 10 days' to '10% daily for 14 days'?

Remember, stability is the key on both of this options. Let no one tell you otherwise.

OR c. Leave it as it is and see what happens next. wink.gif

exist1



GREAT! biggrin.gif
I vote for option a

50/50 is a nice option. Glad you have thought about what we said smile.gif
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post Feb 1 2008, 08:34 AM
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How frequently I can purchase new packages ad ? In 1 day, or after 10 days ?
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post Feb 1 2008, 08:34 AM
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I just changed my signature with new SPP banner Thanks smile.gif
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post Feb 1 2008, 08:40 AM
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I agree with 50/50 rule. This prevent the HAR from draining the system.


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post Feb 1 2008, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(exist1 @ Feb 1 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]4652516[/snapback]
OK, romeoromeo, you have some good points there but you do not know the facts, I know you are just concerned and made up your mind that I just wanted more money... but you chose to ignore me, so I won't even join in your discussion. Just let the track record prove you wrong.

Another thing, it got me thinking last night about what Twenty24Four said and now what selenite (and many others) just recommended. It is either put up an anti-HAR option or lower the rates to add more stability. Since the program hasn't started yet, we can still do the changes. Which would you choose?

a. Implement a 50/50? Meaning you have to purchase at least half of your withdrawal amount before the system allows your withdrawal to go through. For example, you bought $100 worth of ad packs,... after 10 days, your earned a rebate of $140 provided you surfed everyday,... you can only withdraw that amount if you purchase $70 worth of ad packs again.

or

b. Change rate from '14% daily for 10 days' to '10% daily for 14 days'?

Remember, stability is the key on both of this options. Let no one tell you otherwise.

OR c. Leave it as it is and see what happens next. wink.gif

exist1


I don't agree with option A this is just like forcing someone to upgrade. I think that it would be best to keep it how it is option C, this way i think the program would still be stable because it's unlikely some people will be able to surf 14 sites a day.

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post Feb 1 2008, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(vvichais2 @ Feb 1 2008, 07:05 AM) [snapback]4652422[/snapback]
I also think it's quite risky. In FPP, it's 120% in 6days which equal to 140% in 12days.
Here in SPP is 140% in 10days. Doesn't it hurt the program?
correct me if I'm wrong.
probably the program is too complicatd to understand for most people.

Actually "In FPP, it's 120%" is not accurate as most were paid 20% daily and immediately re-invested it, creating a much higher return than SPPs 140% in 10 which can only have a weekly payout


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post Feb 1 2008, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(exist1 @ Feb 1 2008, 03:50 PM) [snapback]4652516[/snapback]
OK, romeoromeo, you have some good points there but you do not know the facts, I know you are just concerned and made up your mind that I just wanted more money... but you chose to ignore me, so I won't even join in your discussion. Just let the track record prove you wrong.

Another thing, it got me thinking last night about what Twenty24Four said and now what selenite (and many others) just recommended. It is either put up an anti-HAR option or lower the rates to add more stability. Since the program hasn't started yet, we can still do the changes. Which would you choose?

a. Implement a 50/50? Meaning you have to purchase at least half of your withdrawal amount before the system allows your withdrawal to go through. For example, you bought $100 worth of ad packs,... after 10 days, your earned a rebate of $140 provided you surfed everyday,... you can only withdraw that amount if you purchase $70 worth of ad packs again.

or

b. Change rate from '14% daily for 10 days' to '10% daily for 14 days'?

Remember, stability is the key on both of this options. Let no one tell you otherwise.

OR c. Leave it as it is and see what happens next. wink.gif

exist1


I wouldn't worry too much about romeoromeo and twenty4, most of us know what their agenda is, and what program their attempting to protect and I don't even want to go into how many relaunches that's had and how the admins got off to a well funded start.

I think if you leave it as it is, you're going to get taken. In my humble opinion I would go for a 50/50, either withdrawal i.e you leave 50% behind or reinvest 50%, after all it worked well for Michael's team for a while.


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post Feb 1 2008, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(asgardian @ Feb 1 2008, 11:13 AM) [snapback]4651902[/snapback]
So many arguments before the launching. blink.gif


It's not a problem, we still have 3 days before launch and that would be
an empty thread for the soooo llooongg weekend rolleyes.gif

It's good to see people share their thinking, everybody learns something,
and moreover it maintains the thread at top of MMG threads list biggrin.gif





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post Feb 1 2008, 10:11 AM
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I agree 50/50 rule deposits will growing faster & SPP stay Very long time

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post Feb 1 2008, 10:13 AM
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I agree with option A.
It doesn't even need to be the 50/50 percentage, as long as there's some mandatory re-investment.


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post Feb 1 2008, 10:15 AM
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50/50 rule will kill the program!!!

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