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Surefiresurf - Surefiresurf.com, 10% daily for 12 days / 144% after 12 days - AP, LR, PM, STP
stredajan
post Jan 29 2011, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE (bary @ Jan 29 2011, 08:34 PM) *
Why creating a new program if we have one? Chris has proven that he isn't scammer cause he is with us here , I know about someones' lost too

SFS has dedicated server and dragonara protection already lets continue from the beginning as it was from day #1

No need to open new program

I am ready to start everything from the beginning Chris wink.gif you have 600 LR now, you haven't had them when you have opened this program and you have prooved that you are honest admin

Perhaps one of the black days was Australia day :D when some users seen 12 hour pendings, when some users felt in panic here, when one monitor said Problem etc.


So as I have my signature - SFS Battle for Honor

most admins are just run-a-way scammers but you are here and lets do some experiments


OK, yes you are right, start from day 1. we will se what Chris talk about this idea, he is really honest, dont remember admin like Chris (with so high percentage of program)

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provend
post Jan 29 2011, 10:18 AM
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damn I am an amateur money maker and lost my $15 i have just $1.49 now but I understand your problems and I agree whit you that i wont get my money well i start from the beginning and if you Rerun SFS/ start new program then count me in
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post Jan 29 2011, 11:34 AM
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QUOTE (ChLinton @ Jan 29 2011, 05:38 PM) *
So any suggestions what we shall do? THe $609 LR what shall we do with it?


How about what I suggested with the % of the deposits (no profits)? So at least the LR investors have a few bucks back.

Or you opena new program and use it as buffer money smile.gif

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nelson7lim
post Jan 29 2011, 12:06 PM
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Chris.. i suggest keeping the $690 and do run something nice for us.. since the money wont be able to be returned to everyone of us, why not use that money to make a program that can make yourself money and make us money? i know 690 is not a lot to work with.. but you already have a plan there. just have to revise the plan.. make it so that people wont be able to hit and run.. thats why apple has 2g, 3g,3gs, 4g and maybe 5g soon. they keep upgrading, this is not the end, this is where we must come up with SFS 2.0!


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post Jan 29 2011, 06:56 PM
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Hi Chris,

First of all, thank you for running your program to the best of your ability and disabling the deposits when you could see that you could not continue.

Thank you also for asking suggestions about how to handle the LR money, as most admins would just put that in their pocket since it can't be disputed.

I think you realize that you can't restart this program or have another version of it because the people who are upset will just cause it to fail. Also, HARs may sign up for one round and leave because they know you won't run with the money.

My suggestion is to refund something to the people who deposited most recently (from a pymt processor) AND who are not in profit. They tried to support you at the end and got burned so it would be nice to see them get something back.

In case anyone is wondering, I do not fit in this category as my upgrades were coming from my internal balance (and I am in profit) so I am not making this suggestion for my benefit.


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bipsync
post Jan 29 2011, 07:58 PM
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hi chris.. my id 3510.. i've sent you a message via facebook..

dont know why, but i still do continue to surf like usual.. blush.gif my expiry date is tomorrow.. and im with ap.. crying.gif

n if you can find a way to continue this program.. would be nice..


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post Jan 29 2011, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE (nelson7lim @ Jan 30 2011, 04:06 AM) *
Chris.. i suggest keeping the $690 and do run something nice for us.. since the money wont be able to be returned to everyone of us, why not use that money to make a program that can make yourself money and make us money? i know 690 is not a lot to work with.. but you already have a plan there. just have to revise the plan.. make it so that people wont be able to hit and run.. thats why apple has 2g, 3g,3gs, 4g and maybe 5g soon. they keep upgrading, this is not the end, this is where we must come up with SFS 2.0!


just a newbie question..

can't programs like autosurf use a forced upgrades? minimum 1 unit? like the forced matrix?


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DannyValentine
post Jan 30 2011, 01:50 AM
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QUOTE (bipsync @ Jan 30 2011, 03:58 AM) *
hi chris.. my id 3510.. i've sent you a message via facebook..

dont know why, but i still do continue to surf like usual.. blush.gif my expiry date is tomorrow.. and im with ap.. crying.gif

n if you can find a way to continue this program.. would be nice..


He is not giving any answers right now. Not one since that pretty harsh arguement has started on his facebook page. Maybe not relevant but he should develop a profitsharing system like Buxify did and make it from there. It's impossible to equalize the deposits and the earnings since some of us put huge amounts in. He should allow the members to put more websites into rotation which could make the whole thing a paid to surf and get advertised idea. If anyone interested to discuss this live, then look for me on FaceBook. There you can find my website where we can chat. I would like to invite Chris to, because being silent doesn't solve anything.
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post Jan 30 2011, 01:54 AM
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QUOTE (DannyValentine @ Jan 30 2011, 05:50 PM) *
He is not giving any answers right now. Not one since that pretty harsh arguement has started on his facebook page. Maybe not relevant but he should develop a profitsharing system like Buxify did and make it from there. It's impossible to equalize the deposits and the earnings since some of us put huge amounts in. He should allow the members to put more websites into rotation which could make the whole thing a paid to surf and get advertised idea. If anyone interested to discuss this live, then look for me on FaceBook. There you can find my website where we can chat. I would like to invite Chris to, because being silent doesn't solve anything.



He should be busy right now celebrating with all the loot. His only setback is that a big chunk of it he cannot deposit to his account yet (or ever I hope) because members filed for AP dispute.

And I dont believe he will be logging in to his facebook soon or ever. He will creating a new screen persona. Watch out the reloaded Chris will have a "cooler image", probably an extreme snowboarding dude.

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post Jan 30 2011, 01:59 AM
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QUOTE (10BucksUp @ Jan 30 2011, 09:54 AM) *
He should be busy right now celebrating with all the loot. His only setback is that a big chunk of it he cannot deposit to his account yet because members filed for AP dispute.


In fact I'm trying to ruin his smile by filing a complaint with FBI. Just waiting for that 5000 people who were fooled by this......guy. If this somehow gets in motion even the local authorities can kick his little thief-ass right over to another universe.

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post Jan 30 2011, 02:28 AM
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QUOTE (DannyValentine @ Jan 30 2011, 09:59 AM) *
In fact I'm trying to ruin his smile by filing a complaint with FBI. Just waiting for that 5000 people who were fooled by this......guy. If this somehow gets in motion even the local authorities can kick his little thief-ass right over to another universe.


Who are you ? 2 posts here in this thread both today . Not one paid post. Are you one off the HAR'S
shame on you.LOL

Get a life mate you are the one who is fooling urself.

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post Jan 30 2011, 04:12 AM
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It's unusual that Chris didn't just close and completely disappear. Maybe the guy is trying to figure out a way to give PPL back their money.
If a new site were to open by him he should keep out the large investors (HIT AND RUN GUYS) by limiting to amount one can invest. Anyone remember The Vaults?
That guy had a good system going for a very long time.
Of course he eventually went the way all these guys go but the program lasted longer that any other one I was ever in.
I would really love to see back even just my seed money so I could try another program as I have no more money to put into these things anymore. $1.78 LR doesn't go very far. LOL
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post Jan 30 2011, 04:30 AM
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QUOTE (DannyValentine @ Jan 30 2011, 09:59 AM) *
In fact I'm trying to ruin his smile by filing a complaint with FBI. Just waiting for that 5000 people who were fooled by this......guy. If this somehow gets in motion even the local authorities can kick his little thief-ass right over to another universe.

Theres some sad people on here.....how can this admin be a scammer? (i joined 4 days ago, lost $40).
He kept sfs going for 3month, a hit and runner ?..i dont think so.
Im sorry people have lost out at sfs (not in profit) but thats a learning curve mot of us will make if we stay in this business.
Ive been "on line" for just 4 yrs and still make mistakes....not as many as i used to.
In total Ive lost £4000+....not dollars, sterling pounds.

Hit and run? scammer?.....Nick Smirnow, admin at P-2-P....he was the daddy of them all.
Move on. wink.gif beer.gif wink.gif smile.gif
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post Jan 30 2011, 05:48 AM
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All these HNRs are crying now and do you know why?

Cause they don't know one rule: >> Do not invest your last 50$ - 100$ in HYIP or AS if you need to buy on this 50$ - 100$ food or drink or whatever you want just buy it <<:)

You know that every HYIP and AS is a game with Winners and loosers

Like ABBA said >> The winner takes it all <<

Invest your money in HYIPs and AS only if you have another 50$ - 100$ and you are ready to win or loose wink.gif


As I said before Chris is a honest admin and when he had a chance to run away with our money ( I am not talking about 1300 AP and 601 LR ) he didn't

so Chris Re-Charge your head with fresh energy and go go go start new engine cool.gif

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post Jan 30 2011, 06:42 AM
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Yup!

It's a shame that some of these creek jumping wart frogs
are blaming Chris because their own ignorance is bliss. screwy.gif

Don't Worry!
I'll take care of them triniti.gif

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