No body's posting or going to post being paid because they get attacked as liers, ...........

No body's posting or going to post being paid because they get attacked as liers, you guys sound like a broken record, Thread is all yours, enjoy. Your irrelavent.
Have a great weekend and year.
Brant

Greetings,

Optio here, AKA Tribune in MCF (which banned me for accurately predicting that PTV would go "private").

I am here to write my apology, now that PTV is going private and all the members will be multi-millionaires. Guess I was wrong. PTV is legitimate after all.

Seriously. I feel for all those who came in recently with big funds. I tried my best with my warnings back in September. I laid it all on the line in MCF, M-N-O, ASA, and here.

I know some made tons, and they sure did whoop it up to keep things going knowing full well that the latecomers were going to fund this thing until they could top of the tanks of the early birds and the admin. Garrett was just a con man, and with the same crew that brought us Freeland Opps in 2004. I guess their laundered legitimate investments took a hit in the market meltdown and they needed to come back to the fish pond for more cash.

A note to those of you who are "in profit". If enough people complain to the authorities they may act swiftly and start recovery of assets actions in the courts. You may be asked for that money back. So, dont spend it. I am not kidding.

All of my predictions about PTV have come true. Don't bet against me.

Well, that's it for me.

Good bye, and good luck.

Optio

Latest update

We apologize for all the problems. Those of you that have lost faith in us, we understand and wish you well. Your funds will still be available for withdraw and you will receive them by Monday Night Tuesday Morning of next week.

All those skeptics have to admit that a number of things have been done since three weeks ago:
- glitch has been corrected
- site is up and running
- suspended accounts have been completed
- added bank wire deposit
- redeposit function enabled again
- in the chat room on Sat 20 people reported having been paid

Obviously the admin is fighting to get it back on track. Normally sites that scam keep their site online after it has stopped paying and there is no reaction from admin or activity on forums etc. It's different here, although I don't say that the road ahead for the next three weeks will be easy, as there are still a lot of pending withdrawals.

All those skeptics have to admit that a number of things have been done since three weeks ago:
- glitch has been corrected
- site is up and running
- suspended accounts have been completed
- added bank wire deposit
- redeposit function enabled again
- in the chat room on Sat 20 people reported having been paid

Obviously the admin is fighting to get it back on track. Normally sites that scam keep their site online after it has stopped paying and there is no reaction from admin or activity on forums etc. It's different here, although I don't say that the road ahead for the next three weeks will be easy, as there are still a lot of pending withdrawals.

No body's posting or going to post being paid because they get attacked as liers, ..............
Brant

you got that right Brant ..............

I agree with flint...... (brant's claim is) about as far from factual as you can get. I would also not be surprised if this is something told to you in the PTV chat. Why PTV chat mods and others keep going on when they know the truth of PTV's status is beyond me....... I mean I know PTV mods were making commission on non referral sign ups but now PTV isn't even paying the commissions so really they are just cheering for PTV to stay alive for their own investments to mature. Any new member to sign up, such as in the gold plan, this money is only going straight to Garretts wallet which is the sole reason he's milking this for every additional day he can for the last few people to invest with new money. Most likely he's not getting anymore which is why he announced the big payday of tomorrow or Tuesday as this will likely be his last hurah payments just like when other HYIPs collapse...... it will not be a lot of $ ie he could easily pay all the under $20 payments like Cashtanker did at the end and make it seem like a lot & just to liquidate his ecurrency balances before he runs away. That is if he really pays anything tomorrow and Tues at all.

Now, back to your theory of why people aren't posting payment here. I can give you one scenario which absolutely disproves your theory brant. That being monitors will post their payments regardless of forum sentiment. In fact many will post their payments without even reading the forum thread updates. You can click the 1st page of the thread, click reply and be done with it.

Brant genius friendI have news for you...... the unfortunate thruth is no one is posting payments because they aren't getting paid!!!

These emoticons most closely represent my last thoughts on PTV

Good day,

All those skeptics have to admit that a number of things have been done since three weeks ago:
- glitch has been corrected

No body's posting or going to post being paid because they get attacked as liers, you guys sound like a broken record, Thread is all yours, enjoy. Your irrelavent.
Have a great weekend and year.
Brant

"Liers", "Your irrelavent". Did you even make it out of 7th grade? And matt40 is just as bad: "you got that right Brant why people post same "ole" stuff is beyond me ,and these attackers seem to "hind" behind "there" computers as a team like "there" on a mission".
I asked this in another thread and I`ll ask it here: Why are the so-called naysayers articulate and logical, and the cheerleaders, like these two here, can`t put a coherent sentence together to save their lives and their logic is that of a 4 year old throwing a temper tantrum?

so we can have people like you complain

He's back on your back, Umbertino. Just as predicted. What a gifted entertainer our good old frabi can be if he only tries hard enough!



I disagree. There's a handful of private programs I wouldn't want to trade for anything. But then, they haven't even been online when they started, therefore we might be talking about a different category here.



Think about what you're saying for a moment. "Naysayers" come in and you feel you have to leave. But doesn't that mean you know right from the beginning what you have gotten yourself into? What is it you fear? Negative vibes, warnings, followed by existing members withdrawing their money, and prospects deciding against joining.

Okay, that all makes some sort of sense, BUT .....

A legitimate program with REAL financial activities, REAL investments, REAL profit doesn't have to care about people leaving, nor about less new people coming in. They have a given amount of working capital, hopefully constantly increasing by their activities, and are prepared to honor withdrawals at any moment, because withdrawals are part of a legitimate company's daily business.

Now, if we are looking at such a program in a forum, it doesn't matter if someone comes in shouting around about what he thinks about it. Some may listen to him, some may not. It won't matter. People withdraw and go elsewhere, give them their money, wish them well, and continue to work with what is left. Okay, this can only work if there is not a single penny treated as ponzi money. No immediate referral payments, no daily or weekly payments. Even monthly payments are questionable and not easily feasible in the real world under professional accounting conditions.

So the fact remains. With a real legitimate program you do NOT have to run the other direction when the posting gets tough. You just stay calm and rely on the documentation you have been entitled to receiving when you joined and the professional accounting that is owed to you on a regular basis. In a real legitimate program, you simply know better than "the posters".

What I'm trying to say is, if you feel you have to pull and run as soon as warnings come up, expecting this to be a reason for a program to fail shortly, you must KNOW you're participating in a ponzi, you must KNOW you're getting paid from other members' deposits, you must KNOW you'd better not have joined in the first place.

It's not really that hard to tell them from each other. A program that won't show you any records of what's being done and how can't be reliable and is definitely not the right place to try to build your kids' college fund or your own retirement budget on.

By the way, I don't believe in the existence of a well orchestrated brigade of naysayers swarming out over certain forum threads at a time, flooding them with what some of you call "negativity".

Why do so many people feel personally offended each time someone doesn't share their opinion? Insisting in "black and white" kills every discussion. The excitement and the challenge lies in the many shades of "grey" between the two.