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 Aug 21 2012, 09:09 AM
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As much as I hate the way JBP conducts it's business, JBP is in fact a legal program, based on the fact they do not advertise themselves as an " investment " program. In order to classify as a legitimate Ponzi Scheme, they would have to claim to be an investment company, but they are paying old members, with new members money, and in fact, NOT investing the funds. JBP is an advertising program, and they have a product, which is advertising credits, and all the other " success " materials, and so on. The 2% is just a benefit of the program, NOT a guarantee, so they're always within their rights to not pay us 2%, because we " purchased " advertising credits. Thus no refunds. Even though we know their system is in fact Ponzi like in every way, those simple changes from " investing " to " purchasing " makes them legal to operate as they do.
This post has been edited by passiveincome84: Aug 21 2012, 09:12 AM
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Aug 21 2012, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE (ISPY @ Aug 21 2012, 11:09 AM)  No, the US is acting in concert with governments of other nations to crack down on ponzi operators and cyber criminals. No, the US enforcement people act in concert with others to protect banking and financial institutions' interests. Don't delude yourself for one moment thinking that it is to protect US citizens. Like Fred says, they don't like it when you disturb their farming operations. In that regard he is 100% right. Just look at what happens when you screw up billions of "US citizens" money, do any of the crooks who lost their money go to jail? Do they get usually their money back? You live in a world of liars and immoral people in high places....
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Aug 21 2012, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (passiveincome84 @ Aug 21 2012, 12:09 PM) As much as I hate the way JBP conducts it's business, JBP is in fact a legal program, based on the fact they do not advertise themselves as an " investment " program. In order to classify as a legitimate Ponzi Scheme, they would have to claim to be an investment company, but they are paying old members, with new members money, and in fact, NOT investing the funds. JBP is an advertising program, and they have a product, which is advertising credits, and all the other " success " materials, and so on. The 2% is just a benefit of the program, NOT a guarantee, so they're always within their rights to not pay us 2%, because we " purchased " advertising credits. Thus no refunds. Even though we know their system is in fact Ponzi like in every way, those simple changes from " investing " to " purchasing " makes them legal to operate as they do. Exactly! It's all about loop holes, legal definitions and terminology. The US law enforcement can do nothing to stop people from losing their money if JBP folds or was a scam. But, the nay sayers Edit: Namecalling removed screw things up on potentially good programs like JBP struggling to make good on their promises. If something happens to JBP we'll never know if it was Fred's fault, or the nays sayers fear mongering tactics on web forums...
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Aug 21 2012, 09:33 AM
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I just had an interesting conversation with someone who plays the HYIP's regularly. We were discussing the new Whistleblower Program. He said the almighty powers that be (hereafter "the PTB") don't have enough manpower to go after all the "programs" in the world so they go after the ones which are the easiest to take down. The PTB know about JBP but have not been able to freeze assets or arrest anyone in JBP since the physical location of JBP is unknown and there are no known bank accounts. He said Mr. Mann is a wanted man on U.S. soil. If anyone goes through the Whistleblower Program and gives the PTB credible information regarding the JBP assets, such as the location of Mann, the location of the servers, and/or the location of the banks, the PTB will move in and shut JBP down. So there is someone new to be concerned about - any person who is close enough to the inner workings of JBP who decides he/she wants that $50,000 reward. I am only sharing the conversation I had. Believe it or don't, take it or leave it. I personally think it is interesting, and it adds a new dimension to the discussions already had on this forum.
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Aug 21 2012, 09:44 AM
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Good news for me, I've been paid non-stop since the 18 and I 'm also paid up til the 8.17 so only 3 days delay again (was 7 before) assuming we don't count today the 21rst as payment for the same day. (has it ever happened? I doubt it).
Thanks JBP keep it up!
Now I need advice from you guys. I haven't been re-purchasing or withdrawing anything (partly because of the cough ups and delays) since the l3th...someone suggested I start withdrawing until the next restart is announced, then buy new triplers right after that.
OK my dilemma is what if the restart is in late November? I would have lost compounding interest and time, even if I buy triplers today, I can't recover my dough until October 9ish (approximately 50 days). And if the restart hits like some predict in the middle of September, all those triplers would be converted to more useless jss positions, so damn if I do and damned if I don't.
Please gimme some advice and how many of you think that the next restart happens in the middle of October? Thanks.
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Aug 21 2012, 09:51 AM
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Group: Banned
Posts: 131
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QUOTE (luvbug06 @ Aug 21 2012, 12:33 PM) I just had an interesting conversation with someone who plays the HYIP's regularly. We were discussing the new Whistleblower Program. He said the almighty powers that be (hereafter "the PTB") don't have enough manpower to go after all the "programs" in the world so they go after the ones which are the easiest to take down. The PTB know about JBP but have not been able to freeze assets or arrest anyone in JBP since the physical location of JBP is unknown and there are no known bank accounts. He said Mr. Mann is a wanted man on U.S. soil. If anyone goes through the Whistleblower Program and gives the PTB credible information regarding the JBP assets, such as the location of Mann, the location of the servers, and/or the location of the banks, the PTB will move in and shut JBP down. So there is someone new to be concerned about - any person who is close enough to the inner workings of JBP who decides he/she wants that $50,000 reward. I am only sharing the conversation I had. Believe it or don't, take it or leave it. I personally think it is interesting, and it adds a new dimension to the discussions already had on this forum. It's all a bunch of quack. No legal jurisdiction can be determined so nobody can tell a foreign host to close a company's hosting account (without cause of action). Also, they are not dealing with banks but merchant services. JBP operates as a merchant not a bank or an investment firm. Shut down JBP's payment processors and new ones will take thier place. It's a waste of US tax payers money for useless investigations and legal action, and they know it. Don't you?
This post has been edited by samson11: Aug 21 2012, 09:53 AM
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Aug 21 2012, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE (jhkwes @ Aug 21 2012, 01:07 PM) My 3-monthly $15 subscription to JSS has expired. I am waiting on my JSS positions to be placed from the last restart, plus some placements I bought. (Not holding my breath, mind you)  My question is this: If I don't pay my $15 sub- what happens? (I'm so P'ed off with this joke of a program that I would prefer not to give it one more cent!) You have a different kind of dilemma  I already gave up on matrices so all that money is as good as lost. I'd say let it go. I am re-posting my dilemma again: OK my dilemma is what if the restart is in late November? I would have lost compounding interest and time, even if I buy triplers today, I can't recover my dough until October 9ish (approximately 50 days). And if the restart hits like some predict in the middle of September, all those triplers would be converted to more useless jss positions, so damn if I do and damned if I don't. Please gimme some advice and how many of you think that the next restart happens in the middle of October? Thanks.
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