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MoneyBucket.BIZ, Another good doubler! Invest now :)
freeboi
post Nov 3 2004, 04:06 AM
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I just talked to the Admin over the phone. His name is John Quarrie. He's British but he lives here in the Philippines. I found it a little bit hard to talk with him on the phone coz of his accent and he talks so fast. But he did not deny that he owned OrangeCheck too. He said all his businesses/sites have the word Orange in them. And according to him, he is going to pay the people he owes in OrangeCheck. He doesn't hide anything from people, he said.

He's invited me to lunch tomorrow so he could explain things better to me in person. He wanted me to see him in person and to know that he is not operating any scams. So we'll see from there...
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post Nov 3 2004, 04:12 AM
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QUOTE(freeboi @ Nov 3 2004, 07:06 AM)
I just talked to the Admin over the phone. His name is John Quarrie. He's British but he lives here in the Philippines. I found it a little bit hard to talk with him on the phone coz of his accent and he talks so fast. But he did not deny that he owned OrangeCheck too. He said all his businesses/sites have the word Orange in them. And according to him, he is going to pay the people he owes in OrangeCheck. He doesn't hide anything from people, he said.

He's invited me to lunch tomorrow so he could explain things better to me in person. He wanted me to see him in person and to know that he is not operating any scams. So we'll see from there...
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Good, tell him he owes me $300. Maybe if you would'nt mind you could gather a list of people that he owes money to and see if he will pay us first. He has not responded to any emails sent.



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post Nov 3 2004, 04:16 AM
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well tell him also that he owes me 37.5 $ ... well lets see how things go far with this person .... he didn't pay anyone till now ... after he pays us we can remove the scam title from his sites

also markj he owes him 500 $ the price of the script that he buy from him and didn't receive anything till now

QUOTE(freeboi @ Nov 3 2004, 05:06 AM)
I just talked to the Admin over the phone. His name is John Quarrie. He's British but he lives here in the Philippines. I found it a little bit hard to talk with him on the phone coz of his accent and he talks so fast. But he did not deny that he owned OrangeCheck too. He said all his businesses/sites have the word Orange in them. And according to him, he is going to pay the people he owes in OrangeCheck. He doesn't hide anything from people, he said.

He's invited me to lunch tomorrow so he could explain things better to me in person. He wanted me to see him in person and to know that he is not operating any scams. So we'll see from there...
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post Nov 3 2004, 04:17 AM
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wow..ktodary1, i read al of your post, all of your post is negative...

erm...me also contact him through yahoo.

but i'm not sure he is scam or not.

he keep tell me that he is not scammer and will prove it when the time come.

i'm the starter of this thread...erm...he is not related to me ok. but when i chat with him in yahoo he doesn't sound scamer....

i'm not sure...time will prove that.



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post Nov 3 2004, 04:21 AM
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i am not negative ??? ... i am telling everyone the truth about this person and his sites cause we get screwed by him
i am just warning people here ... we are here to help each other
anyway i will zip my lips about this topic and people are free to do anything they want ... i just wanna help others here

i also talk with him on yahoo when orangecheck.us opened and he was so nice ... but this does not proof that he is not a scammer

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wow..ktodary1, i read al of your post, all of your post is negative...

erm...me also contact him through yahoo.

but i'm not sure he is scam or not.

he keep tell me that he is not scammer and will prove it when the time come.

i'm the starter of this thread...erm...he is not related to me ok. but when i chat with him in yahoo he doesn't sound scamer....

i'm not sure...time will prove that.
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:28 AM
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QUOTE(EzDouble @ Nov 3 2004, 08:12 PM)
Good, tell him he owes me $300. Maybe if you would'nt mind you could gather a list of people that he owes money to and see if he will pay us first. He has not responded to any emails sent.
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Maybe I can do that after I meet him. If after having met him I find that he's ok, probably we'll be in constant communication since we're near. Then maybe I could try to persuade him to pay first those on the list. But if after meeting him I find him to be not OK, then I think it would be useless even if I give him the list.
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post Nov 3 2004, 05:39 AM
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That will work.






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post Nov 3 2004, 07:21 AM
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yes that will be good freeboi


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post Nov 3 2004, 09:03 AM
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QUOTE(freeboi @ Nov 3 2004, 08:06 PM)
He's invited me to lunch tomorrow so he could explain things better to me in person. He wanted me to see him in person and to know that he is not operating any scams. So we'll see from there...
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do u need a body guard just in case??!! tongue.gif


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post Nov 4 2004, 06:16 PM
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I met the admin in person and we had a nice 5-hour chat. He had other businesses besides this so he's definitely not hiding as you can also see from the WHOIS info. The name there is that of one of his staff.

He is very cordial and friendly. Very easy to talk to. He takes suggestions very well. He is going to discontinue MoneyBucket in order to do a proper launch (as per my advice, based on our collective experience in this forum). He will refund those who bought shares. Those who already doubled their money and received withdrawal may keep the money as gift from him. He will announce the date and time for the re-launch. If you have suggestions you may post them here. Please no more flaming. I'm trying to help make things right here. I really don't want my time and effort to be wasted.

With regard to OrangeCheck, he will pay withdrawals by next week. We all know Evocash went down and he had funds there. And he had trouble with his original Intgold account due to password errors. So these problems delayed the withdrawals. I'm asking you to give him some more time.

I'm happy to have met him. He's the only admin I've met in person. I know his numbers, where his office is, and his residence. So you can all relax now. Naturally, of all the admins out there, I would put all my trust in him.

Now I think I've done my share in this forum. I immediately contacted him as soon as I learned he's in my country and in the same city. In fact he wasn't around when I called, but he returned my call. He even sent me an sms message asking which country I am so he could call me. It means he was willing to return my call even if I'm in other parts of the globe.

I think 90% of doubler admins are in the US. Isn't there anyone who lives there able to contact the admin of a program so we could find out more before we start shouting SCAM? Honestly, I really don't know why this can't be done considering that the US is one of the most advance country in the world in terms of communication technology. I'm not trying to mean anything bad here. I just want to be educated. I just want us to find more ways to have better communication with admins. I'm really SICK AND TIRED of all miscommunications, hit and runs, accusations, flames, etc.

I've done my part. Now do yours.
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post Nov 4 2004, 06:18 PM
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The problem with the US is that it's so spread out and you can be in one place with lights and people and the next minbute you're in the woods.

If someone is in my area I would gladly b*tchslap them if they ripped us off laugh.gif


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post Nov 4 2004, 06:22 PM
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Can't you give them a call? If the admin lives in the farthest island in my country, I would still give him a call.
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post Nov 4 2004, 06:23 PM
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very good work freeboi
thanks


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post Nov 4 2004, 06:24 PM
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I'm sort of a recluse and hate the phone but maybe on occasion I would. Though I don't think talking to them proves much. Here you find more deceitful people than overseas. Sometimes I wonder why I don't move to England or something...


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post Nov 4 2004, 06:33 PM
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really in this forum we can make very good team work


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