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Itrade4u - Itrade4u.biz, 1.2% Daily - E-Gold
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post Jun 21 2007, 09:10 AM
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.....sigh....well,.....whatcha think....? unsure.gif
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post Jun 21 2007, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(sirjethro @ Jun 21 2007, 10:09 AM) [snapback]4203928[/snapback]
One stupid question: How late is it no in Costa Rica?


Not a stupid question... I'm not sure even after finding this site on google...

Central time zone...???

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=225

I know what it should be for my time here in Arizona, but with all the
members trying to get on the site, it may be slow for a few hours...
skylady

Just an added note...
Liz's Investment program is like investing in the Stock Market...

This is not a HYIP...

...so it is well worth the wait for a secure and well working site...

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post Jun 21 2007, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(stevereeves @ Jun 21 2007, 10:10 AM) [snapback]4203929[/snapback]
.....sigh....well,.....whatcha think....? unsure.gif


According to my very own thinking 11 AM. Am I right? Pleas correct me otherwise.
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post Jun 21 2007, 09:54 AM
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From http://itrade4u.biz:

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This Domain is for Sale
FAPIC INVEX E-BASTION TROYBANK ITRADE4U OPENTRADE are our most famous projects! Thank you to have helped us to achieve them, and see you soon for the next one! Shalom, David.


SCAM.

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post Jun 21 2007, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(sirjethro @ Jun 21 2007, 09:21 AM) [snapback]4203951[/snapback]
According to my very own thinking 11 AM. Am I right? Pleas correct me otherwise.


...yep...that's what she said alright...
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post Jun 21 2007, 10:06 AM
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QUOTE(sirjethro @ Jun 21 2007, 09:21 AM) *
According to my very own thinking 11 AM. Am I right? Pleas correct me otherwise.


QUOTE(stevereeves @ Jun 21 2007, 10:57 AM) [snapback]4204043[/snapback]
...yep...that's what she said alright...



"Greetings!

The site will be up on THURSDAY June 21st at 11 AM in Costa Rica. I let each of you translate in his local time.

So you have to figure out what the time is in your time zone where you live...
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post Jun 21 2007, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(skylady @ Jun 22 2007, 02:06 AM) [snapback]4204058[/snapback]
QUOTE(sirjethro @ Jun 21 2007, 09:21 AM) *
According to my very own thinking 11 AM. Am I right? Pleas correct me otherwise.
"Greetings!

The site will be up on THURSDAY June 21st at 11 AM in Costa Rica. I let each of you translate in his local time.

So you have to figure out what the time is in your time zone where you live...
skylady


Open http://itrade4u.biz and you understand the whole end of this story...
ITRADE4U was NOT run by LIZ WARREN-TRADER, IT WAS RUN BY SOME SCAMMER WHO SCAMMED PPL AT INVEX, E-BASTION, TROYBANK and now ITRADE4U!!!


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post Jun 21 2007, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(ntah @ Jun 21 2007, 09:54 AM) [snapback]4204039[/snapback]
From http://itrade4u.biz:

This Domain is for Sale
FAPIC INVEX E-BASTION TROYBANK ITRADE4U OPENTRADE are our most famous projects! Thank you to have helped us to achieve them, and see you soon for the next one! Shalom, David.

SCAM.



FROM THE INVEX GROUP

"Dear Invex Ltd. Players,

This is a long message and will be the last news you will hear from us... until we open our next HYIP
We want, kindly, recommend you stop losing your time by looking after us. Anyway, for the cyber detectives, here is how we worked.

1- The basis is having 100% false ID documents. For $200 you get a really nice looking pack of documents, even nicer than legal ones

2- We rented a nice apartment with fast internet in a nice city near the sea, with false documents. We then bought a new desktop computer and a new laptop, installed some fresh programs.

3- We opened a bank account with false documents, put some cash on the account, and got a nice true debit card.

4- We opened e-gold accounts and funded them from the bank account above.

5- A bit later we opened e-bullion accounts, funded by... you, idiots who "invested"

OK? Now we have e-gold, internet, a place to sleep, eat etc, all without possibility to track us. A major question was "Must we open a real company". We decided that NO, as people are so stupid that they believe all what they read. And you know what? It is true Invex Ltd. and Lomax Group Corp. are pure fantasy

Okay, let's go to work now!

1- Opening a domain name and booking a server at the katzglobal scammers' best place, paying with e-gold.

2- Later, booking a dedicated server and paying with... the debit card coming from the bank account above

3- Renting Prolexic, and paying them by bank transfers from.... an e-gold exchanger The gold came from YOU idiots who "invested" !


To specialists who want to track us by the IP addresses, we kindly recommend you to use Google and look at JAP, Freenet, I2P, TORR, etc.
You will understand that our IP come from anywhere in the world, beeing chained between servers who cannot track them.
And even if so, the last IP address, the place where we lived, was this nice appartment near the sea, that we left some weeks ago Oh, the computers were given to a charity, after the hard disks were physically deleted

Other pros say "Let's track the money"! Great idea, but don't forget that even the ******* muslim terrorists cannot be tracked by the special services

How did we withdraw all your nice donations? That's easy, thanks to mygcard who supplied us hundreds of anonymous debit cards that our friedns and us used in various countries! Alain Vignard from mygcard received $20.000 cash in hands for helping us to find the ATM with no "$800/day limits", and telling us how to use the cards at the best. Well, Alain tried to scam us later, but that is another story

We also used bank transfers from the best exchangers, who have no problem at all sending $100,000 or $200,000 every 3 days to bank accounts in Panama, the BVI, etc Nice offshore places outside the EU and the US Track the money there, dear friends!

Oh, about exchangers, we worked with one of them from Australia, and where a bit afraid at the beginning, as he wrote on his website that he "verifies ALL data" from his clients. LOL ! His fee is 2%, we kindly offered him 2% more "to preserve our privacy" Look at our dialogue by email:

- HIM: 2% more is a good offer, but is your gold clean? We don't want to work with scammers.
- US: Of course, what are you thinking? We are honest businessmen and just want to keep a low profile.
- HIM: OK, i can see you are not scammers, just send me the gold and 4% fee instead of the regular 2%.

Thank you mister G. ))

As I am in a very good mood, I will also explain you something: Most of the biggest HYIP are run by us, a professional team. And when other scammers try to enter our market, BING! If they are interesting people we try to buy them, if not DDOS attacks make them shutdown To be sure our rating is the best one, we also pay the admins of a few monitoring programs, including the biggest and "most reliable" (LOOOOL) one!

Our business is to make money. We use 20% of the money we get to help poor and disabled people around each of us, 20% other is given to some "political" associations that fight against ISLAM (Hey guys from the Emirates, Bahrein, Kuwait, etc etc, did you read this? THANK YOU , and the balance is for us.

We have currently a dozen of HYIP running, are going to close some of them, and of course to open new ones! We are working like this since a few years, and all is working fine!

But you know, it IS possible to make profit from HYIP: Just do it QUICKLY! Look: teamaaronshara@bellsouth.net made $6,580 profit with us, including the commissions they got by sending YOU IDIOTS, to Invex. These people are really scumbags: They are making profit by making you lose!

As a clever guy told in some forum, "there were no guarantees, so no need to cry". YEP! We NEVER gave any guarantee to ANYBODY (unless Titanium plans, and you should notice that THESE guys do NOT cry on your forum, try to guess why...!), we even recommended those who ask for guarantees to go to their local bank They didn't? THEIR CHOICE!

When reading your forum and others, we really laugh! So, most of you were already scammed by other HYIP? By our HYIP maybe Anyway, it seems that you don't understand what a teenager is able to understand! So, you continue to "invest" here and there, and that is good... FOR US! For you, I am not sure When I see a GREAT SPECIALIST, the "Andrewunknown", proudly saying that he lost $40,000 into Invex but that he will recover from other HYIP, WE ARE LAUGHING, FALLING FROM OUR CHAIRS )))) Moreover in his list of "no ponzi", LOL, some of them are from us ))))


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post Jun 21 2007, 11:31 AM
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There is some evidence of newsletters from itrade4u:
some might be missed.

http://a1.hostuju.cz/viewtopic.php?pid=152

interesting

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post Jun 21 2007, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(REBELLE @ Jun 21 2007, 10:23 AM) [snapback]4204084[/snapback]
FROM THE INVEX GROUP

"Dear Invex Ltd. Players,

This is a long message and will be the last news you will hear from us... until we open our next HYIP
We want, kindly, recommend you stop losing your time by looking after us. Anyway, for the cyber detectives, here is how we worked.

1- The basis is having 100% false ID documents. For $200 you get a really nice looking pack of documents, even nicer than legal ones

2- We rented a nice apartment with fast internet in a nice city near the sea, with false documents. We then bought a new desktop computer and a new laptop, installed some fresh programs.

3- We opened a bank account with false documents, put some cash on the account, and got a nice true debit card.

4- We opened e-gold accounts and funded them from the bank account above.

5- A bit later we opened e-bullion accounts, funded by... you, idiots who "invested"

OK? Now we have e-gold, internet, a place to sleep, eat etc, all without possibility to track us. A major question was "Must we open a real company". We decided that NO, as people are so stupid that they believe all what they read. And you know what? It is true Invex Ltd. and Lomax Group Corp. are pure fantasy

Okay, let's go to work now!

1- Opening a domain name and booking a server at the katzglobal scammers' best place, paying with e-gold.

2- Later, booking a dedicated server and paying with... the debit card coming from the bank account above

3- Renting Prolexic, and paying them by bank transfers from.... an e-gold exchanger The gold came from YOU idiots who "invested" !
To specialists who want to track us by the IP addresses, we kindly recommend you to use Google and look at JAP, Freenet, I2P, TORR, etc.
You will understand that our IP come from anywhere in the world, beeing chained between servers who cannot track them.
And even if so, the last IP address, the place where we lived, was this nice appartment near the sea, that we left some weeks ago Oh, the computers were given to a charity, after the hard disks were physically deleted

Other pros say "Let's track the money"! Great idea, but don't forget that even the ******* muslim terrorists cannot be tracked by the special services

How did we withdraw all your nice donations? That's easy, thanks to mygcard who supplied us hundreds of anonymous debit cards that our friedns and us used in various countries! Alain Vignard from mygcard received $20.000 cash in hands for helping us to find the ATM with no "$800/day limits", and telling us how to use the cards at the best. Well, Alain tried to scam us later, but that is another story

We also used bank transfers from the best exchangers, who have no problem at all sending $100,000 or $200,000 every 3 days to bank accounts in Panama, the BVI, etc Nice offshore places outside the EU and the US Track the money there, dear friends!

Oh, about exchangers, we worked with one of them from Australia, and where a bit afraid at the beginning, as he wrote on his website that he "verifies ALL data" from his clients. LOL ! His fee is 2%, we kindly offered him 2% more "to preserve our privacy" Look at our dialogue by email:

- HIM: 2% more is a good offer, but is your gold clean? We don't want to work with scammers.
- US: Of course, what are you thinking? We are honest businessmen and just want to keep a low profile.
- HIM: OK, i can see you are not scammers, just send me the gold and 4% fee instead of the regular 2%.

Thank you mister G. ))

As I am in a very good mood, I will also explain you something: Most of the biggest HYIP are run by us, a professional team. And when other scammers try to enter our market, BING! If they are interesting people we try to buy them, if not DDOS attacks make them shutdown To be sure our rating is the best one, we also pay the admins of a few monitoring programs, including the biggest and "most reliable" (LOOOOL) one!

Our business is to make money. We use 20% of the money we get to help poor and disabled people around each of us, 20% other is given to some "political" associations that fight against ISLAM (Hey guys from the Emirates, Bahrein, Kuwait, etc etc, did you read this? THANK YOU , and the balance is for us.

We have currently a dozen of HYIP running, are going to close some of them, and of course to open new ones! We are working like this since a few years, and all is working fine!

But you know, it IS possible to make profit from HYIP: Just do it QUICKLY! Look: teamaaronshara@bellsouth.net made $6,580 profit with us, including the commissions they got by sending YOU IDIOTS, to Invex. These people are really scumbags: They are making profit by making you lose!

As a clever guy told in some forum, "there were no guarantees, so no need to cry". YEP! We NEVER gave any guarantee to ANYBODY (unless Titanium plans, and you should notice that THESE guys do NOT cry on your forum, try to guess why...!), we even recommended those who ask for guarantees to go to their local bank They didn't? THEIR CHOICE!

When reading your forum and others, we really laugh! So, most of you were already scammed by other HYIP? By our HYIP maybe Anyway, it seems that you don't understand what a teenager is able to understand! So, you continue to "invest" here and there, and that is good... FOR US! For you, I am not sure When I see a GREAT SPECIALIST, the "Andrewunknown", proudly saying that he lost $40,000 into Invex but that he will recover from other HYIP, WE ARE LAUGHING, FALLING FROM OUR CHAIRS )))) Moreover in his list of "no ponzi", LOL, some of them are from us ))))

I should have known you weren't "LIZ" because your
english grammer is so bad. I just figured you just spent
most of your time in europe.


You talk about using the money for poor people. You
also said you may lose our money in the stock market
because you were really investing. However, you did
not say you would run and steal it. You think you are
helping the poor? Well I am a poor school teacher
with a daughter whom I am living for and trying to
make comfortable before I get too old. I lost a wife a
few years ago. I can afford to lose this. I won't
starve. But you stole a dream from someone who has
already had some hard hits in life. I spend my time
trying to help kids everyday. So if you are trying to
justify stealing money from people who trusted you and
thought you were really investing, don't bother. You
will get your reward on the "other side" someday. You
are scum and have no real value or reason for living.

jhinck1nc

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post Jun 21 2007, 11:48 AM
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QUOTE(jhinck1nc @ Jun 21 2007, 12:38 PM) [snapback]4204224[/snapback]
I can afford to lose this. I won't
starve. But you stole a dream from someone who has
already had some hard hits in life. I spend my time
trying to help kids everyday. So if you are trying to
justify stealing money from people who trusted you and
thought you were really investing, don't bother. You
will get your reward on the "other side" someday. You
are scum and have no real value or reason for living.

jhinck1nc


Excellent response...
IF this is true, I am in complete agreement with your 'reward on the other side' ...

Being a very positive person, I will wait and see...

IF Liz is real, we'll hear from her sometime today... I'm still hoping for the best, as it was so neat to have a real investment program for a change...
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post Jun 21 2007, 12:00 PM
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..still waiting for a resolution, (sigh) ...here is a recent WHO IS, ..oh, here is itrade4u.biz IP: 216.98.141.250 ...and firefox just gives: The connection has timed out The server at itrade4u.biz is taking too long to respond....asti7 heart.gif

Domain Name: ITRADE4U.BIZ
Domain ID: D15825016-BIZ
Sponsoring Registrar: INNERWISE, INC. D.B.A. ITSYOURDOMAIN.COM
Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 142
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registrant ID: 459A2EB05260B
Registrant Name: Domain Administrator
Registrant Organization: CyberFrontier Registry
Registrant Address1: Cyfro Associates Sdn Bhd3a-4-07 BJ Complex
Registrant City: Bayan Baru
Registrant State/Province: Penang
Registrant Postal Code: 11900
Registrant Country: Malaysia
Registrant Country Code: MY
Registrant Phone Number: +1.6046462019
Registrant Email: registry@cyberica.net
Administrative Contact ID: 459A302FB4794
Administrative Contact Name: Liz Waren
Administrative Contact Address1: 38 Argyle Street, Kings Cross
Administrative Contact City: London
Administrative Contact State/Province: London
Administrative Contact Postal Code: WC1H8EP
Administrative Contact Country: Great Britain (UK)
Administrative Contact Country Code: GB
Administrative Contact Phone Number: +44.8712641686
Administrative Contact Email: liz.waren@yahoo.co.uk
Billing Contact ID: 459A2EB0C554F
Billing Contact Name: Domain Administrator
Billing Contact Organization: CyberFrontier Registry
Billing Contact Address1: Cyfro Associates Sdn Bhd3a-4-07 BJ Complex
Billing Contact City: Bayan Baru
Billing Contact State/Province: Penang
Billing Contact Postal Code: 11900
Billing Contact Country: Malaysia
Billing Contact Country Code: MY
Billing Contact Phone Number: +10.6046462019
Billing Contact Email: registry@cyberica.net
Technical Contact ID: 459A302FB4794
Technical Contact Name: Liz Waren
Technical Contact Address1: 38 Argyle Street, Kings Cross
Technical Contact City: London
Technical Contact State/Province: London
Technical Contact Postal Code: WC1H8EP
Technical Contact Country: Great Britain (UK)
Technical Contact Country Code: GB
Technical Contact Phone Number: +44.8712641686
Technical Contact Email: liz.waren@yahoo.co.uk
Name Server: NS7.ZONEEDIT.COM
Name Server: NS14.ZONEEDIT.COM
Created by Registrar: INNERWISE, INC. D.B.A. ITSYOURDOMAIN.COM
Last Updated by Registrar: INNERWISE, INC. D.B.A. ITSYOURDOMAIN.COM
Domain Registration Date: Tue Jan 02 10:06:41 GMT 2007
Domain Expiration Date: Tue Jan 01 23:59:59 GMT 2008
Domain Last Updated Date: Tue Jan 02 10:13:05 GMT 2007

>>>> Whois database was last updated on: Thu Jun 21 19:43:34 GMT 2007 <<<<


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post Jun 21 2007, 12:20 PM
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I had send an email to Liz and i have recived this:

FAPIC INVEX E-BASTION TROYBANK ITRADE4U OPENTRADE are our most famous projects!

Thank you to have helped us to achieve them, and see you soon for the next one!

Shalom,

David.


And after I send other email to Liz and the aswer was:

Don't waste your time, nobody won't read your mails!

Shalom!

David



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post Jun 21 2007, 12:21 PM
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I feel sorry for all that lost here but the message posted above is so weird. Why would someone waste his time and write such nonsense crap. But for some guys with the pink glasses it might be a good read, useful. wink.gif
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post Jun 21 2007, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(skylady @ Jun 21 2007, 10:20 AM) [snapback]4203950[/snapback]
Not a stupid question... I'm not sure even after finding this site on google...

Just an added note...
Liz's Investment program is like investing in the Stock Market...

This is not a HYIP...


Phew... What lucky people we are, that this was NOT a HYIP but a real investment in the stock market... rolleyes.gif
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