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Imperiainvest - Imperiainvest.net, 1 plan,50$ egold or ebullion (forex invest like rpp)
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post May 31 2007, 02:27 AM
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http://www.imperiainvest.net/memberarea/?ref=mihailo79


SIMPLIFIED CALCULATION

TEP Police:
100%

TEP nominal amount
+ 320.000,00 US-Dollar


Capital / Loan value / Bank loan:
60%

TEP value
+ 192.000,00 US-Dollar


Capital split (60%):

Bank fees / processing fees - 1.400,00 US-Dollar

Trustee fees / processing fees - 3.000,00 US-Dollar

Reinvesting TEP - 90.000,00 US-Dollar

Referral bonus 8 level deep - 17.600,00 US-Dollar

Entire costs - 112.000,00 US-Dollar


Capital / Trade Preparation:

Forex / Arbitrage Capital + 80.000,00 US-Dollar

Profit Target after 6 months* ** ca. + 335.000,00 US-Dollar

* Profit Target: 1,2% daily payouts with 100% compounding option
** Profit Target may vary/differ +/- 5%
Daily Profits per banking days will be credited to your account


Payout:

Profit Target after 6 months approx. ca. + 335.000,00 US-Dollar

Payout / 30% shares IMPERIA Invest IBC - 100.500,00 US-Dollar

Payout / 30% shares Investmenthouse / Broker - 100.500,00 US-Dollar

Payout / 40% shares Investor/TEP member - 134.000,00 US-Dollar



After completion of all 10,000 TEP policies you will receive your guaranteed share of 40% (134,000.00 US-Dollar NET PROFIT) Profit Target after 6 months 335,000.00 US-Dollar.

Please consider that the Profit Target could differ +/- 5%
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mihailo79
post Jun 2 2007, 09:01 AM
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Please note: The age limit is 59, BUT if you’re older, then you can still refer, and after all, that’s where the real money is.
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post Jun 2 2007, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(mihailo79 @ Jun 2 2007, 10:01 AM) [snapback]4153094[/snapback]
Please note: The age limit is 59, BUT if you’re older, then you can still refer, and after all, that’s where the real money is.



Is this for real or just another scam? fear2.gif
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mihailo79
post Jun 3 2007, 12:29 PM
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they have logo on site its from lloys and barclays bank....
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post Jun 10 2007, 06:59 AM
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QUOTE(jellbell @ Jun 3 2007, 01:33 AM) [snapback]4154289[/snapback]
Is this for real or just another scam? fear2.gif


OMG.....give me a break shocking.gif what a joke.....looks like the same con artists from ICC, HCI....etc....are trying to get more money out of the gullible.


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post Jun 10 2007, 09:23 PM
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Hi Everyone,

There's a conference call regarding these RPP's. On the last call, the host was mentioning that he was going to do some DD on this program as well as WPP. He's in Utah and He won't be back till the following Tuesday (6-19). I don't know if this is a scam or not but I'll post my findings from the conference call.

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littledoll
post Jun 12 2007, 02:31 AM
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Zeus, I have e-mailed you 3 times using your gmail address for you to send me the conference call number. AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A REPLY YET! dry.gif
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post Jun 12 2007, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(littledoll @ Jun 12 2007, 06:31 AM) [snapback]4179144[/snapback]
Zeus, I have e-mailed you 3 times using your gmail address for you to send me the conference call number. AND I HAVEN'T RECEIVED A REPLY YET! dry.gif


Sorry Littledoll,

I don't know your e-mail address off hand so I'm going to PM you the info. blush.gif

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post Jun 13 2007, 02:40 AM
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QUOTE(mihailo79 @ Jun 3 2007, 09:29 PM) [snapback]4155972[/snapback]
they have logo on site its from lloys and barclays bank....




The logo is definately NOT from Lloyds (my bank) or Barclays which I know very well. It is their own logo nothing to do with these banks, I would strongly advise against repeating this misinformation to any of your prospects, as it could bring unwellcome attention to the program.

That said, I think it is an interesting program certainly worth exploring further.




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littleone1110
post Jun 14 2007, 05:03 AM
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QUOTE(Panther2 @ Jun 13 2007, 05:40 AM) [snapback]4181914[/snapback]
The logo is definately NOT from Lloyds (my bank) or Barclays which I know very well. It is their own logo nothing to do with these banks, I would strongly advise against repeating this misinformation to any of your prospects, as it could bring unwellcome attention to the program.

That said, I think it is an interesting program certainly worth exploring further.


I have done a little research on this one because I saw someone on another board inviting folks to join.

I think I'll sit back and watch this one................ JMHO rolleyes.gif

The numbers are not adding up if you do the math, the hosting and domain name are both on services known for serving the less than desireable type things anyone wants to admit getting involved.

They detail the returns on the investment, but they don't explain the source for the $80K which is the key number used as the basis for the 1.2% used in the calculations of returns that follow (not your $50). Since it just kind of magically appears, it seems like an obvious question.

Particularly as an entity whose primary business is investing, why would they put their own money (either directly or through some loan) at risk in exchange for a relatively trivial amount invested by TEPs and then give away the returns generated?

And we're not talking about insignificant amounts here from either investment or return perspectives. Using their own assumptions:

$50 x 10,000 TEPs = $500,000 total received
$80,000 x 10,000 TEPs = $800,000,000 total "loaned"
$800,000,000 - $500,000 = $799,5000,000 their net at risk.


Anonymous domain registered through Katz;

Hosted on a sketchy host that has routinely rented servers to other similar "programs" in the past that have scammed and spammers for shady opportunities;

No real contact info or details on the organization.

Pinging this website provided an IP of 202.157.181.251

This is the WhoIs information on the IP Address

inetnum: 202.157.181.64 - 202.157.181.255
netname: WEBVISIONS-COLO-HK
country: HK
descr: Webvisions (Hong Kong) Ltd
descr: A Subsidiary of Webvisions Pte Ltd (Singapore)
descr: Hong Kong
descr: Co-location and Dedicated Servers
descr: Please send abuse requests to abuse@webvisions.com
admin-c: IP6-AP
tech-c: MH352-AP
status: ASSIGNED NON-PORTABLE
changed: indra@webvisions.com 20041027
mnt-by: MAINT-SG-WEBVISIONS
source: APNIC

person: Indra Pramana
address: Webvisions Pte Ltd
address: 75 Science Park Drive
address: #02-06/08 Cintech II
address: Singapore Science Park I
address: Singapore 118255
country: SG
phone: +65-6773-9492
fax-no: +65-6773-9389
e-mail: indra@webvisions.com
nic-hdl: IP6-AP
mnt-by: MAINT-SG-WEBVISIONS
changed: indra@webvisions.com 20020719
source: APNIC

person: Mohamad Zulkifli Hanafi
nic-hdl: MH352-AP
e-mail: zulkifli@webvisions.com
address: 75 Science Park Drive
address: #02-06/08 Cintech II
address: Singapore Science Park I
address: Singapore 118255
phone: +65-6773-9550
fax-no: +65-6773-9389
country: SG
changed: indra@webvisions.com 20030303
mnt-by: MAINT-SG-WEBVISIONS
source: APNIC

This is the WhoIs information I pulled for the domain name.

DNS:
ns1.hongkong-servers.com
ns2.hongkong-servers.com

Created: 2007-04-27 01:04:03
Expires: 2008-04-27
Last Modified: 2007-04-27 08:03:03

Registrant Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Name Domain Proxy Center (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07 c/o imperiainvest.net
SC, Singapore, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

Administrative Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Name Domain Proxy Center (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07 c/o imperiainvest.net
SC, Singapore, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

Technical Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Name Domain Proxy Center (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07 c/o imperiainvest.net
SC, Singapore, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

Billing Contact:
Katz Global Domain Name Trust
Privacy Protected Domain Name Domain Proxy Center (domaintrust@katzglobal.com)
32 Maxwell Road #03-07 c/o imperiainvest.net
SC, Singapore, sg 069115
P: +65.67228356 F: +65.67258021

The DNS Search
;; Answer received from 216.145.1.3 (139 bytes)

;; QUESTION SECTION (1 record)
;; imperiainvest.net. IN A

;; ANSWER SECTION (1 record)
imperiainvest.net. 14281 IN A 202.157.181.251

;; AUTHORITY SECTION (2 records)
imperiainvest.net. 14281 IN NS ns1.hongkong-servers.com.
imperiainvest.net. 14281 IN NS ns2.hongkong-servers.com.

;; ADDITIONAL SECTION (2 records)
ns1.hongkong-servers.com. 172681 IN A 202.157.180.101
ns2.hongkong-servers.com. 172681 IN A 202.157.180.31



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post Jun 14 2007, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE(littleone1110 @ Jun 14 2007, 02:03 PM) [snapback]4184861[/snapback]
I have done a little research on this one because I saw someone on another board inviting folks to join.

I think I'll sit back and watch this one................ JMHO rolleyes.gif



This program should not be viewed as a straightforward RPP, as the main profits come from currency trading not from the actual policy payout.

In this scenario, they are borrowing against an Endowment Policy issued based on the members personal details, the policy has a face value of US$320,000, therefore the loan amount at 60% of face value is US$192,000.

They have then allocated the US$192,000 loan to cover, Bank fees/professing fees, Trustee fees/processing, Reinvesting TEP, Referral bonus 8 levels deep, these costs total US$112,000.

Now if you deduct these total costs of US$112,000 from the total available loan of US$192,000 this = US$ 80,000, and it is these funds are then used to trade in FX on an arbitraged basis, meaning that the buying and selling of the currencies is done simultaneously which minimises risk, since they have profits locked in on every trade because they already have a buyer lined up at the same time as they make the currency purchase, that is why profits can be guaranteed by the trustee agreement.

As for why they would utilize the loan amount (which after all is Other Peoples Money not out of their pocket) to facilitate this transaction, the answer is because they will be making US$100,500 per policy (30% share) X 10,000 policies = US$1,005,000,000, which I think you’ll agree is a pretty significant above market return considering it has cost them nothing out of their own pocket, since they are merely facilitating the transaction as financial intermediaries and therefore effectively receiving a 30% comission per policy.

The fact that they are using an anonymous domain register is pretty much the norm since (like all RPP type opportunities) they are engaged in offering what amounts to a “private placement”, not a public offering, therefore to minimise regulator interventions it is logical to remain low profile (anonymous) from outsiders, just like ICC, PWW etc.

I am not a member, but I’m looking seriously at this one.

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post Jun 14 2007, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(Panther2 @ Jun 14 2007, 09:32 AM) [snapback]4185039[/snapback]
This program should not be viewed as a straightforward RPP, as the main profits come from currency trading not from the actual policy payout.

The fact that they are using an anonymous domain register is pretty much the norm since (like all RPP type opportunities) they are engaged in offering what amounts to a “private placement”, not a public offering, therefore to minimise regulator interventions it is logical to remain low profile (anonymous) from outsiders, just like ICC, PWW etc.

I am not a member, but I’m looking seriously at this one.


Thanks for the input Panther2. I guess there are so many other servers that have a better reputation that can offer the privacy and protection is what I am looking at. I understand they are wanting a low profile, the way they did it is just setting off a little red warning sign in my mind.

I think they have misrepresented themselves a bit by saying their banks are private but have logos for 3 different banks on the site home page which can be as simple as a cut and paste. The English and grammer is pretty rough as well as quite a few misspellings.

I would think they would have someone fluent in the language proof before launching.

They have been in Germany, then England now Panama ???? As I said, I think this one I'm going to watch.
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post Jun 15 2007, 04:40 AM
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QUOTE(littleone1110 @ Jun 14 2007, 09:28 PM) [snapback]4185757[/snapback]
Thanks for the input Panther2. I guess there are so many other servers that have a better reputation that can offer the privacy and protection is what I am looking at. I understand they are wanting a low profile, the way they did it is just setting off a little red warning sign in my mind.

I think they have misrepresented themselves a bit by saying their banks are private but have logos for 3 different banks on the site home page which can be as simple as a cut and paste. The English and grammer is pretty rough as well as quite a few misspellings.

I would think they would have someone fluent in the language proof before launching.

They have been in Germany, then England now Panama ???? As I said, I think this one I'm going to watch.


I don't see 3 different “Bank logos” on the website, what I see is simply one corporate logo for their IBC.

It was the person starting this thread that claimed (erroneously) it has Lloyds and Barclays Bank logo on the website, which since Lloyds is my own Bank and I know Barclays very well, I can confirm that the logo does not belong to either Bank, so there is no cut and paste here, just a logo designed specifically for their IBC.

As for their less than perfect use of the English language, we both know that exactly the same thing can be said about PWW, but that has not stopped us from working with them.

Anyway, in the final analysis each person must make their own decision, and so like you I too am waiting and watching.



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post Jun 16 2007, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE(Panther2 @ Jun 15 2007, 07:40 AM) [snapback]4187068[/snapback]
I don't see 3 different “Bank logos” on the website, what I see is simply one corporate logo for their IBC.

It was the person starting this thread that claimed (erroneously) it has Lloyds and Barclays Bank logo on the website, which since Lloyds is my own Bank and I know Barclays very well, I can confirm that the logo does not belong to either Bank, so there is no cut and paste here, just a logo designed specifically for their IBC.

As for their less than perfect use of the English language, we both know that exactly the same thing can be said about PWW, but that has not stopped us from working with them.

Anyway, in the final analysis each person must make their own decision, and so like you I too am waiting and watching.


The logos were there because I saw them too. In fact, to prove a point elsewhere I used one of the 3 as an avatar. I even commented on it elsewhere and maybe word is going back to the owners/webmaster and they are cleaning the site up. I hope so.

In checking the website just now, the logos are not there but were at the very bottom of the home page below the navigation bar. The logo you are referring to is on the Barclays website and is not copy protected and very easy to hijack. click here They (Imperia) was using the logo in the top left hand corner of the above link.

I hope this one works for everyone that signs up and that my gut feeling is telling me a tall tale.
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post Jun 16 2007, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE(littleone1110 @ Jun 16 2007, 06:51 PM) [snapback]4190039[/snapback]
The logos were there because I saw them too. In fact, to prove a point elsewhere I used one of the 3 as an avatar. I even commented on it elsewhere and maybe word is going back to the owners/webmaster and they are cleaning the site up. I hope so.

In checking the website just now, the logos are not there but were at the very bottom of the home page below the navigation bar. The logo you are referring to is on the Barclays website and is not copy protected and very easy to hijack. click here They (Imperia) was using the logo in the top left hand corner of the above link.

I hope this one works for everyone that signs up and that my gut feeling is telling me a tall tale.
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If Barclays and Lloyds logo were on the website previously it is consistent with the fact that they have stated that they are working with top 100 world banks (i.e. the ones providing the 60% loan), the FAQs section states this point, however I do not think it was a good idea to mention (imply) their names publicly by using the banks logo on the website, as the name of the banks is always confidential, and the fact that they have removed it shows they have now corrected their mistake.

Accordingly, I continue to keep an open mind.




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