sunday many many members cycled in mini and mains today and 4 members won prizes on the monthy guessing game. well done to those members.
The cap members are getting really fired up about the bus and what it will do for there business.
You can join caps for free and find out about the bus in the skype chat room; so come and join us and make 2012 your year for freedom.
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If a person is looking for an online program
for long term -- CAP is the program to join.

If a person is looking for the best Admin
in any program -- CAP is the program to join.

Now, the Admin of CAP have introduced in
pre-launch the BUS.

The BUS will push all phases of CAP.

The best thing anyone can do is join CAP For
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You can also go to the (How It Works) page
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Jonathan,

Thanks for your answers.

Did you get into CAP early on?

Yes, ISPY, I was in prior to launch of MiniCap and have no regrets

Thanks, Jonathan,

See, I wish I had gotten in early, even if it was with a small amount. I just have my doubts that people getting in now can make anything until a long time.

ISPY, I have been reading some of your recent posts. Seems to me you would like to make some money for sure, but although you realize you cannot do that overnight legitimatally, you show some impatience...

Building your business at CAP is a process. Just like with any business in the offline world. I don't come here very often to post about CAP, since I have other forums as well, but I wish I could put your mind at ease. CAP is about buying packages of advertisements (that you do or do not use) and the owners sharing the income with its members. No investment, just purchasing. To me that seems like an outside income. We pay those packages through AlertPay or Solid Trust Pay. How more outside would you like it?

Then of course, when we earn, we can also buy from our account balances (AB) if we wish and most of us do because we realize that in order to grow your bizniz you must build and build... Compare it to a shop of any kind: you don't expect to break even after a few months, do you? The proven average of any bizniz before making a profit is 3 years. That's offline, but I suppose the same goes for online.

De CAP program is self sustaining thanks to all the subscriptions you have to maintain once you are in profit. You NEVER pay for a sub before you have earned. It just takes some wise planning to have enough withdrawn into AP to pay for your subs. With the sub you get a new unit of 3 positions, so you are building again, month after month. No nonsense about "maintaining the software" or anything, you get your advertising unit. Period. So you build by subs and you build by "outside" purchasing...

Of course we like more members... the more the merrier, the more cycling and the faster everybody earns!!

You want more straight forward info: well, I joined a month after the start... early July. Bought minis then, since there were only minis at the time, main being in pre-launch. First time I cycled was early November. So I waited 4 months. Did I mind that waiting? No, because I realized building takes time (see the 3 years average). If you want a profit right away, CAP is not your program. If you are realistic in your expectations, CAP is the BEST!!

With CAP you cycle when it is your turn. Nothing more, nothing less. When you get in now, you will cycle after a number of months. If you buy units at a certain regular pace, you will cycle thereafter again, again and again. It's only fair that those who started in July are already making money... The are working their biz for 8 months now. With CAP it is never too late to join!!! Everything and everyone in its own good time!

What is that about Skype and messages popping up? Have you ever been in Skype? Never have seen anything "popping up" ... Skype is about the best way to communicate!!

You want figures, right? No 'vague' omfo. Well, so far I earned back more than a quarter I spent on advertising units. And I have earned so many re-entries that I can say approx. half of my assets in CAP I have not paid for. But they will pay me. Eventually. This is a long term biz, and as such the best there is. You need help? You can get all the help from the team you want. We are a team, we don't work with commissions... thank God. No so-called gurus taking the money and run. In a few years time I will have about $45,000 per year from CAP. Approx. From the positions I have NOW. I did not calculate that on the back of a napkin, but for real. Meantime I will have many more positions thanks to subs and re-entries, so I count on that figure for the years to come. It will supplement my pension plan that becomes a reality in 5 years. Supplement real big time, I might add. That's all I want from CAP...

This has become a trilogy, and I apologize to everyone getting bored half way... he he. But if you have read up to here, you must have understood that I am dead serious about CAP, not hurraying it for any reason other than CAP is the best thing that ever happend to me online.

Tell you what ISPY and everyone who is DEAD serious about CAP but still have hesitations. You can ask me any question, after it showed you read the instruction books. CAP is complicated in the beginning, but after a week or so you understand. How many of you know EXACTLY how your car works? Still you drive it, no?

So come to me with all your questions, but keep them focussed. Having general questions: read the books on the CAP website. Focussed questions? Ask them!! We are here for you. The whole CAP team is!!

This post has been edited by elisata: Feb 27 2012, 05:31 AM

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First, elisata, I very much appreciate your detailed post and for giving me more specific answers to my questions and concerns.

(See the part I put in bold:) These advertising packages that you speak of are no different from what surf sites offer -- they offer ad packs, which in no way can be considered outside income. Ad packs are just member upgrades, which makes all such programs nothing more than ponzis. Now this one is trying to be a "legal ponzi", but just because it requires tax forms, I don't believe it would pass government scrutiny. The SEC has considered programs that have ad packs as a product to be selling securities, and thus they need to be registered with the SEC. I would be interested to know what the owners are doing to make CAP legally compliant. I've seen nothing about it.

Anyway, I like that the program doesn't allow sponsoring, that it requires tax forms, that the owners are open and transparent, but the fact remains that there is no outside income to support this -- it depends on member upgrades (buying ad packs) to pay out other members. So, it needs a continual increase of members and upgrades to keep from stalling. That's why they have to keep introducing new features -- mini, ASP, the BUS, etc. Sometime later, they'll have to start another one after the BUS.

I like the program, and I like and admire the owners, but in the end it seems this is just a well-designed, "trying-to-be-somewhat-legal" ponzi. I wish they had true outside income and were legally registered; this might have a chance of lasting then.

A Ponzi is a program where just the owner(s) and some hot shot bo-bo's make money..... from other peoples money...
The poor little members have to wait endlessly for any cashout, if any comes.

With CAP it doesn't matter when you become a member and how much money you would like to spend on ad packages, you all get the same deal eventually. Yes you have to queue up, but who cares? We are all interested in the long haul, not in a fly by program we have seen so many of!

The admins don't HAVE to create new features to attract people... things were going fine with just mini and main. It's just more fun with more to choose from... The program is self sustaining, tricks aren't necessary.

It's a shame you think you cannot make a good income with CAP since it is already 8 months old. Like I said, that is not of any interest... heck, you can start in three years time and make an income that's worthwhile!! Only... yes... it takes a while before it starts coming... But at a bank you don't get your interest sooner than in January, never mind when you put some dollars in your saving account...

"A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from their own money or the money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from any actual profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation. The Ponzi scheme usually entices new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent. Perpetuation of the high returns requires an ever-increasing flow of money from new investors to keep the scheme going.

The system is destined to collapse because the earnings, if any, are less than the payments to investors. Usually, the scheme is interrupted by legal authorities before it collapses because a Ponzi scheme is suspected or because the promoter is selling unregistered securities. As more investors become involved, the likelihood of the scheme coming to the attention of authorities increases.

The scheme is named after Charles Ponzi,[1] who became notorious for using the technique in 1920.[2] Ponzi did not invent the scheme (for example, Charles Dickens's 1857 novel Little Dorrit described such a scheme),[3] but his operation took in so much money that it was the first to become known throughout the United States. Ponzi's original scheme was based on the arbitrage of international reply coupons for postage stamps; however, he soon diverted investors' money to make payments to earlier investors and himself."
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The Ponzi scheme usually entices new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent.

Since there are no short-term returns involved, nor any investments, I think the term 'Ponzi' does not fit...

It may not quite fit, and the admins are trying to be above board and legal.

But it's sole source of income is still member upgrades (ad packs) which it uses to pay newer members. That's what concerns me. It concerns me from both the legal side and the practical side. On the practical side, there will come a point where it's not bringing in enough income to pay its members, and it will stall. That's why it has to continually keep introducing new "plans", but this will eventually not work any longer. On the legal side -- well, you know the end result there.

I wish the program the best, but something needs to be done about the income aspect of it.

Your on a roll ISPY. carry on...shaken up, but somehow I think they/we will stay asleep. At least until the next above broad and legal program comes along.

It may be a long sleep then.