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post Jan 8 2010, 12:10 AM
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The World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong (WOIPFG) talks to a participant in a case of live organ harvesting from a Falun Gong practitioner.


In 2002, the witness was working for the public security (i.e. police) system of Liaoning Province, and he participated in illegal arrests and torture of Falun Gong practitioners. Among them, a female Falun Gong practitioner in her 30s had wounds and scars covering her entire body, after one week of severe torment and forced food intake.

On April 9th, 2002, a certain office of the Public Security Bureau of Liaoning province sent two military surgeons, one being a military surgeon from the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region of People's Liberation Army and the other one being a military surgeon graduated from the Second Military Medical University. They transferred this practitioner to another place (Note 1). Under the circumstances that this female practitioner was fully conscious, without using any anesthetics, they harvested her heart, kidneys and other organs. The witness was an armed police guard at that time and witnessed the entire process of live organ harvesting.

The witness also revealed that, during the period, in which he worked for Jinzhou Public Security Bureau, the then-chief, Wang Lijun issued an order to “must eradicate all” in regards to the treatment of Falun Gong practitioners. The witness had participated in the illegal arrests of Falun Gong practitioners and many times severely tortured practitioners in the interrogation process to extract information.

Liaoning Province is a region where the persecution of Falun Gong practitioners is very severe. The number of Falun Gong practitioner deaths confirmed and published by Minghui Net has reached 406. Wang Lijun is currently the chief of Chongqing Public Security Bureau, carrying on intensified persecution of Falun Gong practitioners, under the name of “destroying mafia-like underground societies”, in coordination with Bo Xilai, the Secretary General of Chinese Communist Party’s Chongqing Committee. (For more information, please consult related reports on Minghui Net, for instance “Chongqing Wicked Policemen Intensified Persecution towards Falun Dafa Disciples” (report is in Chinese. Note 2)

Note 1: During the first conversation, in order not to expose himself, the witness didn’t specify the location where the live organ harvesting took place. In the second conversation, the witness clearly indicated that the live organ harvesting took place in an operating room on the 15th floor of the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region. It has been confirmed that the15th to 17th floors of the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region are used for surgery.
Note 2: Although lacking relevant credentials and academic background, Wang Lijun serves as an analyst in the Criminal Law Office of Beijing University Law School and as a vice president of the International Forensic Medical Examiner of Heads and Faces Association. Most of his published papers were forensic medical examination of heads and faces. However, in his official resume, there is one paragraph that is unrelated to forensic medicine but to organ transplant: “(he) carried out the first ‘analysis of organ transplant experimenst after medicinal injection’ in China”.
Partial recordings of the conversation:

Witness: A scalpel, a surgical knife at the chest. When it cut the chest, blood gushed out. It was gushing out....

Question: Is the person you saw male or female?

Witness: Female.

Question: Young?

Witness: Maybe in her 30s.

Question: Was she still shouting “Falun Dafa is great”?

Witness: Yes, still, she was still shouting.

Question: Please describe what she was saying at that time.

Witness: At that time, we had been interrogating and severely torturing her for about a week. She already had countless wounds on her body. Also, (we) used electric batons to beat her. She had already become delirious. She was already beaten to .... Since she refused to eat anything, we forcefully poured milk into her stomach. She didn’t want to drink, so we forced it down. You know, when her nose was pinched, because of her basic human instincts, she had to drink the milk. Therefore, her life was maintained that way, but she lost almost 15 jin (equivalent to 7.5 kilograms) within seven days.
However, we didn’t know at this time, that a certain office of the Public Security Bureau of Liaoning Province (anyway, it was a very secretive office) had sent two people over. One of them was a military surgeon from the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), and the other one was a graduate of the Second Military Medical University. Specifically, one of them was relatively old, and the other one was young. They were doing something to her in an operating room of the mental hospital she was sent to. No anesthetics were used. They cut her chest with a knife without their hands shaking. If it were me, I would be shaking. I am an armed policeman, I used guns, I went through drills with authentic ammunitios, and I had seen many corpses, but when I saw these military surgeons, I was really amazed. Their hands didn’t shake at all; they put on their surgical mask and cut directly. At that time, we (armed policemen) were standing on guard with a gun each in our hands. By then, she had already been opened. Then “Ah!” she shouted loudly once. Then she shouted, “Falun Dafa is great”.

Question: She shouted “Falun Dafa is great” when her chest was cut?

Witness: She shouted “Ah” loudly, saying “Falun Dafa is great”. She said “you killed me, one individual.” (I think) it roughly meant “you killed one individual like me. Can you kill several hundred millions of us, people that are being persecuted by you for our true belief?” At that moment, that doctor, that military surgeon hesitated. Then he looked at me, then at our (policemen’s) superior. Then our superior nodded, and he continued to do the veins… (Her) heart was carved out first, next were the kidneys. When her cardiac veins were cut by the scissors, she started twitching. It was extremely horrible. I can imitate her voice for you, although I couldn’t imitate it well. It sounded like something was being ripped apart, and then she continued “ah”. Since then she always had her mouth wide open, with both her eyes open wide. Ah… I don’t want to continue!
(Certain parts omitted.)

Witness: This person was a teacher, an instructor teaching in a high school. Her son should be almost 12 years old by now. Her husband was quite incapable (i.e. didn’t have much power). Maybe he was a factory worker. Prior to this, she suffered even greater humiliation. Many of our policemen were perverted. They were using pincers and other equipments that I don’t know from where they got them, to molest her. I have witnessed all these with my own eyes, but I regret that I didn’t take any photos. She had some good looks, relatively beautiful, (so the policemen) were raping her…this was far too common.

Question: This is what you witnessed in the police station where you stayed…?

Witness: I didn’t stay in a police station. I was in a training center, which was the backyard of a hotel. (The policemen) rented ten rooms in a small building. They would do this in a small mansion.

Question: A black jail?

Witness: More or less so.

Question: As long as they are Falun Gong practitioners, they were sent there?

Witness: Yes.

Question: Even before they were tried, they were sent there?

Witness: Anyway, we (i.e. policemen) always change places on a short notice.
(Certain parts are omitted.)

Question:You haven’t told me the specific time.

Witness: It was April 9th, 2002.

Question: April 9th?

Witness: Yes, the operation started from 5 p.m. on April 9th and lasted three hours. Before that, it continued for a month.

Question: What do you mean by “it continued for a month”?

Witness: Our interrogating and torturing of her lasted for a month.
(Certain parts are omitted.)

Question: Did you torture them once in the interrogation process to extract information or many times?

Witness: Many times. At that time, Wang Lijun, nowadays the chief of the Chongqing Public Security Bureau, ordered us to “must eradicate all”.

Origional article from WOIPFG

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QUOTE (klbr10 @ Jan 8 2010, 02:10 AM) *
The World Organization to Investigate the Persecution of Falun Gong (WOIPFG) talks to a participant in a case of live organ harvesting from a Falun Gong practitioner.


In 2002, the witness was working for the public security (i.e. police) system of Liaoning Province, and he participated in illegal arrests and torture of Falun Gong practitioners. Among them, a female Falun Gong practitioner in her 30s had wounds and scars covering her entire body, after one week of severe torment and forced food intake.

On April 9th, 2002, a certain office of the Public Security Bureau of Liaoning province sent two military surgeons, one being a military surgeon from the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region of People's Liberation Army and the other one being a military surgeon graduated from the Second Military Medical University. They transferred this practitioner to another place (Note 1). Under the circumstances that this female practitioner was fully conscious, without using any anesthetics, they harvested her heart, kidneys and other organs. The witness was an armed police guard at that time and witnessed the entire process of live organ harvesting.

The witness also revealed that, during the period, in which he worked for Jinzhou Public Security Bureau, the then-chief, Wang Lijun issued an order to “must eradicate all” in regards to the treatment of Falun Gong practitioners. The witness had participated in the illegal arrests of Falun Gong practitioners and many times severely tortured practitioners in the interrogation process to extract information.

Liaoning Province is a region where the persecution of Falun Gong practitioners is very severe. The number of Falun Gong practitioner deaths confirmed and published by Minghui Net has reached 406. Wang Lijun is currently the chief of Chongqing Public Security Bureau, carrying on intensified persecution of Falun Gong practitioners, under the name of “destroying mafia-like underground societies”, in coordination with Bo Xilai, the Secretary General of Chinese Communist Party’s Chongqing Committee. (For more information, please consult related reports on Minghui Net, for instance “Chongqing Wicked Policemen Intensified Persecution towards Falun Dafa Disciples” (report is in Chinese. Note 2)

Note 1: During the first conversation, in order not to expose himself, the witness didn’t specify the location where the live organ harvesting took place. In the second conversation, the witness clearly indicated that the live organ harvesting took place in an operating room on the 15th floor of the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region. It has been confirmed that the15th to 17th floors of the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region are used for surgery.
Note 2: Although lacking relevant credentials and academic background, Wang Lijun serves as an analyst in the Criminal Law Office of Beijing University Law School and as a vice president of the International Forensic Medical Examiner of Heads and Faces Association. Most of his published papers were forensic medical examination of heads and faces. However, in his official resume, there is one paragraph that is unrelated to forensic medicine but to organ transplant: “(he) carried out the first ‘analysis of organ transplant experimenst after medicinal injection’ in China”.
Partial recordings of the conversation:

Witness: A scalpel, a surgical knife at the chest. When it cut the chest, blood gushed out. It was gushing out....

Question: Is the person you saw male or female?

Witness: Female.

Question: Young?

Witness: Maybe in her 30s.

Question: Was she still shouting “Falun Dafa is great”?

Witness: Yes, still, she was still shouting.

Question: Please describe what she was saying at that time.

Witness: At that time, we had been interrogating and severely torturing her for about a week. She already had countless wounds on her body. Also, (we) used electric batons to beat her. She had already become delirious. She was already beaten to .... Since she refused to eat anything, we forcefully poured milk into her stomach. She didn’t want to drink, so we forced it down. You know, when her nose was pinched, because of her basic human instincts, she had to drink the milk. Therefore, her life was maintained that way, but she lost almost 15 jin (equivalent to 7.5 kilograms) within seven days.
However, we didn’t know at this time, that a certain office of the Public Security Bureau of Liaoning Province (anyway, it was a very secretive office) had sent two people over. One of them was a military surgeon from the General Hospital of Shenyang Military Region of the People's Liberation Army (PLA), and the other one was a graduate of the Second Military Medical University. Specifically, one of them was relatively old, and the other one was young. They were doing something to her in an operating room of the mental hospital she was sent to. No anesthetics were used. They cut her chest with a knife without their hands shaking. If it were me, I would be shaking. I am an armed policeman, I used guns, I went through drills with authentic ammunitios, and I had seen many corpses, but when I saw these military surgeons, I was really amazed. Their hands didn’t shake at all; they put on their surgical mask and cut directly. At that time, we (armed policemen) were standing on guard with a gun each in our hands. By then, she had already been opened. Then “Ah!” she shouted loudly once. Then she shouted, “Falun Dafa is great”.

Question: She shouted “Falun Dafa is great” when her chest was cut?

Witness: She shouted “Ah” loudly, saying “Falun Dafa is great”. She said “you killed me, one individual.” (I think) it roughly meant “you killed one individual like me. Can you kill several hundred millions of us, people that are being persecuted by you for our true belief?” At that moment, that doctor, that military surgeon hesitated. Then he looked at me, then at our (policemen’s) superior. Then our superior nodded, and he continued to do the veins… (Her) heart was carved out first, next were the kidneys. When her cardiac veins were cut by the scissors, she started twitching. It was extremely horrible. I can imitate her voice for you, although I couldn’t imitate it well. It sounded like something was being ripped apart, and then she continued “ah”. Since then she always had her mouth wide open, with both her eyes open wide. Ah… I don’t want to continue!
(Certain parts omitted.)

Witness: This person was a teacher, an instructor teaching in a high school. Her son should be almost 12 years old by now. Her husband was quite incapable (i.e. didn’t have much power). Maybe he was a factory worker. Prior to this, she suffered even greater humiliation. Many of our policemen were perverted. They were using pincers and other equipments that I don’t know from where they got them, to molest her. I have witnessed all these with my own eyes, but I regret that I didn’t take any photos. She had some good looks, relatively beautiful, (so the policemen) were raping her…this was far too common.

Question: This is what you witnessed in the police station where you stayed…?

Witness: I didn’t stay in a police station. I was in a training center, which was the backyard of a hotel. (The policemen) rented ten rooms in a small building. They would do this in a small mansion.

Question: A black jail?

Witness: More or less so.

Question: As long as they are Falun Gong practitioners, they were sent there?

Witness: Yes.

Question: Even before they were tried, they were sent there?

Witness: Anyway, we (i.e. policemen) always change places on a short notice.
(Certain parts are omitted.)

Question:You haven’t told me the specific time.

Witness: It was April 9th, 2002.

Question: April 9th?

Witness: Yes, the operation started from 5 p.m. on April 9th and lasted three hours. Before that, it continued for a month.

Question: What do you mean by “it continued for a month”?

Witness: Our interrogating and torturing of her lasted for a month.
(Certain parts are omitted.)

Question: Did you torture them once in the interrogation process to extract information or many times?

Witness: Many times. At that time, Wang Lijun, nowadays the chief of the Chongqing Public Security Bureau, ordered us to “must eradicate all”.

Origional article from WOIPFG


Are you certain this isn't just urban legend fodder or "copy pasta" from online sources?

Read: http://www.snopes.com/horrors/robbery/kidney.asp

http://www.snopes.com/medical/emergent/donor.asp

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post Feb 6 2010, 07:57 AM
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Just copy paste, because I am not a reporter.
More info visit here :

http://www.faluninfo.net/

Thank You

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thanks for sharing that URL... I heard that is true


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Is this true??? I thought it was just one of those urban legends going that's going around for years.

If it is... that's horrible.


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I don't quite understand why Falun Gong practitioners be murdered?? what their mistakes? blink.gif
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QUOTE (charityblake @ Aug 12 2010, 01:34 AM) *
I don't quite understand why Falun Gong practitioners be murdered?? what their mistakes? blink.gif




Why is the Chinese Communist Party persecuting Falun Gong?
The complex rationale behind the campaign can be broken into four elements: Falun Gong’s popularity, the role of Jiang Zemin, conflicting ideology, and the nature of the Chinese Communist Party’s system.

While a common misconception is that the gathering of 10,000 adherents in Beijing on April 25, 1999 is what led to the persecution of Falun Gong, oppression of the practice actually began at least three years earlier.

The more popular Falun Gong became, the more resistance it encountered. Party leaders fear any large, independent group, and Falun Gong was probably the largest. When Falun Gong books became bestsellers in 1996 they were banned; when state-run media estimated that over 70 million people practiced Falun Gong - more than the Party’s membership - media began attacking Falun Gong and state security began spying on and harassing adherents.

It was in response to these early abuses that adherents gathered in Beijing.

Fearing Falun Gong’s rapidly growing popularity was overshadowing his own legacy, then-Party leader Jiang Zemin ordered the practice “eradicated.” According to a 1999 Washington Post article, “Jiang alone decided that Falun Gong must be eliminated” (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A54486-1999Nov11?language=printer). Journalists and inside sources have described Jiang as “jealous” of Falun Gong and “obsessed” with eliminating the group. As China analyst Willy Lam has argued, by creating a national campaign Jiang sought to both align power to himself and eradicate a group he saw as a threat to his power.

The ideological differences between the atheist Communist Party and the spiritual Falun Gong also played a role. While religion is again becoming increasingly popular in China, and the Party does allow some religious affiliations, religious groups must submit to the state and their leaders must be Party approved. Other groups who, like Falun Gong, have chosen to preserve their belief system and refused to tender to the Party have also met persecution, including Tibetan Buddhists and house church members.

Finally, as the Nine Commentaries on the Communist Party (www.ninecommentaries.com) has argued, the persecution of Falun Gong is the latest in a continuum of violent campaigns that the Party uses to remind the population of its control. Mao Zedong once said that China should have a Cultural Revolution every seven or eight years. Indeed, since the 1950s not a decade has gone by without some violent state-led campaign aimed at the masses. From the suppression of “counterrevolutionaries,” the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, the 1989 crackdown on the democracy movement, to Falun Gong, the Party has killed 60-80 million Chinese citizens.


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