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GPF A good program down by detestable hackers!
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do not expect anything anymore.... sorry folks another one down for the count(yes another 2% one)
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Ok guys, I think Hitzpay is done and dusted. Gary doesn't know what to do.
Here's a yahoo chat session I had with him about 10minutes ago.
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gary: hello be just a bit just got up
hyicenter: no worries.
hyicenter: just noticed that the forum is down too.
hyicenter:
http://www.hyi-center.net/listings/viewtopic.219.htmlgary: everthing is down even my mail server
hyicenter: if you want to lay out a note, send one on my forum and i'll get the message passed around for ya.
gary: othersites being hit by them too
hyicenter: ya, he's done a lot of sites lately.
gary: hes killed mine bad
hyicenter: my friends host has DDos protection Gary. He can put you temporarily there if you like until you can find somewhere else?
gary: i cant move the site unless they try physcaly moving the hd
hyicenter: but you have backups?
hyicenter: transfer the backups to the new server.
gary: the backups are on a seperate hd on the mysql server
hyicenter: even still, obtainable.
gary: not unless they move the hd
hyicenter: lol... they can send you a back up copy. no need to move HD's.
gary: and even then they say the data is probley currupted
hyicenter: but you don't know that for definite
gary: they cant turn on the machine
gary: : thats what they told me
hyicenter: they can turn it off, and place it offline to turn on to make the backups to send ya.
gary: there attacking 4 of my servers
gary: wouldnt help anyways with all the chargebacks paypal almost empty
hyicenter: well, this is the thing, quicker ya get it temporarily backed up, and placed on a DDos protected server, the better.
gary: ###### denko said he would put me oput of business and ruin me and hes doin what he said he would do
hyicenter: but he wont get through my buddies DDos protection though.
gary: your not understanding even if i can get the site up i dont have the funds to pay period
hyicenter: why?
gary: i just told ya
hyicenter: not following ya.
gary: my paypal is almost empty from charge backs
hyicenter: what about egold?
gary: they got my egold at the begining of the week and all egold comming in from the site upgrades
hyicenter: well, that sucks.
gary: why do you think he said he got my gold and wanted it all
hyicenter: how much did he get away with?
gary: ###### im doing charge back dispute now been doing them all morning
hyicenter: F**K ME
hyicenter: how did he manage to get in?
gary: no f**k me
gary: he hacked my admin then he got my login ip it shows in the admin and then he hacked my pc.I though i had him cut off when i noticed the pc going nuts but i didnt get it shut off in time
gary: this guy is a *******
hyicenter: dont you have a firewall?
gary: thats why he waited till the first to do it
gary: ya but it didnt stop him this guy knows what hes doin
hyicenter: do you still have your firewall logs?
gary: hes not listed it only shows blocvked ips
gary: well you know the admin panel is the same for everyone using autosurf software
gary: and i forgot about it when i loged into the site admin it shows the last login to the admin
hyicenter: but the way I would do it, as i was going to mention to you, is password protect the folder.. AND rename the control folder to something else.
gary: basicly im screwed bad will probley have to hock my house to get the money to cover all of this and my house is only worth about 35,000 so i dont know where im gona come up with all this at
hyicenter: I've been advising other auto surf admins to do that, cos that's how the hackers were able to get in.
gary: never had a problem with security with the script but theses guys do get smarter
gary: cpanle has a md5 hash folder protector that works great but i didnt have it enabled
gary: nerver had to before
gary: nothing is safe anymore
hyicenter: but you should ALWAYS have these messures in place, regardless if it's happened before or not.
hyicenter: oh well, the **** has happened now. I dunno what ya gonna do.
gary: about like that egold ipn that took 6 months to block hackers from sending false ipns to get upgrades
gary: took 6 months cause every time i thought it was right some hacker messed with me soime more
hyicenter: but all that is fixed now though?
gary: and my other problem is i have to get a new server cluster that i can pay with other than paypal becose if paypal goes in minus i coul;d have all my server payments reversed and then i got the server company on my butt too
gary: ya the egold ipn is perfect now
gary: lot of good it does me now
gary: the internet isnt becomeing a safe place to do anything now adays
gary: always someone tryin to tke ya down
gary: should have just stayed with scripts and such
gary: didnt see thids happening at all
gary: ###### i got members that have been paid and with the site 5 months doin chargebacks scheesh
gary: talk about greedy
hyicenter: talk about bang out of order.
gary: paid in 500 and got paid out 1500 and still want therte 500 back
gary: now thats a scammer
hyicenter: w**kers
gary: ya exactly
hyicenter: what do you want me to say on these forums? cos they're going to ask me.
gary: i dont have a clue
gary: other than im screwd
gary: im ner gona get this done as fast as i do a despute i get 10 more uuuug
gary: im not gona have a good day
gary: can i screem yet?
gary: ya i know and i have to take the brunt of all the abuse not him
hyicenter: I could simply just copy this chat on the forum?
hyicenter: up to you.
hyicenter: ok, give me a mo.
gary: it is the truth weather they accept it or not
gary: dang **** has me so upset
hyicenter: I know how ya feel.
gary: im gona be livin in a cardboard box
hyicenter: can't say I'm too happy about it too.
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Everything has gone Rabbit. He took out quite a bit, past two months when problems occurred hardly anyone compounded as much as they normally had. So he was basically relying on new spends in, to make more with as apposed from what profits were made months prior that didn't require him to take everything or most out to make due on payments.
Any way, I've been chatting with him now actually. I had an idea.
WHAT IF I could help ALL those members recoup what they didn't get back.
He asked how cos he aint got any dosh left to even help a recouping process. I mentioned I could use my forex system, but it wont be put into use until into the mid of next year.
Now this is only for those who haven't got back 100% of their money. But it would require those members to enter any where between 10-40% or so of the total they put in to be used to get back the amount they need to break even, then get their 10-40% back at the end.
So I've suggested to him to login to paypal and egold, download the history and filter out who's in profit and who isn't.
He's all for the idea, but he said it's going to take a long time to do the cross referrancing since those who put in say, $10.00 paypal and $50 egold, would be paid in egold. And most recently those who used intgold to be paid in egold the other week.
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hyicenter: how much do you reckon it would take for everyone to get to a point they have broken even - not including those in profit?
gary: dont know if i ever get access to my database i can setup a script to calulate it but im sure it would be 100,000 or more
hyicenter: dont need access to your database, the details are in your egold and pay pal accounts,etc.
gary: on top of what was stolen
gary: i did that one month by going thru egold printout about 3 months ago about 100 pages of data talk about a list from ###### would be huge now would take weeks to ent it into a database and do calulations
gary: i just cant catch a break
gary: well not everone is ###### at me just the greedy ones
hyicenter: nah, it wouldn't.. create a simple script to add up the egold numbers of spends made... script 1
and script 2 would be to add up all the amounts of the spends sent to egold nubers,
run script one against script to, job done.
gary: i still dont have the money to do it with
hyicenter: well, I was going to suggest something, but it wouldn't happen until next year any way.
gary: thatsb 85,000+ people not in profit thats about 200,000 est egold not including paypal
gary: imm not rich
gary: i dont even have enoght personal property to sell to get that much
gary: like i said i got a house that isnt paid for thats worth only 35,000
hyicenter: I was going to suggest a Hitzpay recovery plan.
Each member would need to contact me. list what spends they made in egold, paypal,etc.
These would then be verfied via your history reports.
and members would need to send me 10-40% of what they put in with you as apart of the recovery plan, once they got their money back, they get their 10-40% back depending on how much they need to recoup.
gary: i dont live like a king at all
hyicenter: then I'll get my forex system up and running and use that to help them recover and get you out of the deep end.
hyicenter: but my system will only produce around 15-40% a month though. using proper money management
gary: i will see if i can come up with some figures will take a bit to do but if my paypal account gets locked down thats history there PAYPAL MEMBERS WONT BE ABLE TO GET NOTHING BACK AT ALL
gary: dang caps
hyicenter: see if you can login now. if you can, download the history.
gary: ?
hyicenter: ?
gary: download the history
hyicenter: login to paypal now, and download ya history
hyicenter: I'll let the ppl know on this forum
hyicenter: Rabbit has asked me did you take money out of the trading account too?
gary: i got to go get sme paper so i can print it off its about 7 monts of history and i got to edite out my server payments and stuff
hyicenter: paper?
hyicenter: why paper?
gary: that money was moved to egold before they hit thats why they waited till payday to hit egold
hyicenter: you should be able to download the paypal spends in and out via CSV format.
gary: a 7 month file of paypal transactions is to big and will freeze up my pc i wont be avble to open it up to look at it
gary: i have to edit it ya know
hyicenter: download it month by month, not all 7 months in one go..
gary: server payments dont count
gary: i know that thats why i got to edit it
gary: when you download it its all in the file
hyicenter: yeah, but you can do a part download, like you can do with egold.
gary: every transaction and the mass pay dont show each members payout it just says mass payout i know ive done tryed that
hyicenter: gary, we're not on the same page here..lol
gary: well tell him the last 2 months nobody was compounding nothing so we had to take more capitiol out of traDE TO COVER THE PAYOUTS EVERONE WAS PUTTING MO0NEY IN GCISURF AND 12DAILYPRO so there isbnt much left in there to nothing with
hyicenter: Each person you pay to, has their details in it, don't worry abut the memo lines, and stuff, thatis not what you're looking for. its the amounts they put in and what they got paid.
in paypal you have a transactions IN record and a transactions OUT record.
you don;t need to download all 7 months worth, you cando them 1 month at a time.
gary: i u8nderstand that but mass payouts work differnt i used mass payouts
gary: you know like 30-40,000 at a time
gary: anyways i will get the records and see what it all shows up
gary: this sint gona be a over night thing
hyicenter: then download them in 1 week sections then
hyicenter: or one day sections.
gary: becouse members payed in with paypal and got paid out with egold and such
hyicenter: okey dokey.
hyicenter: oh, gotcha... chit.
hyicenter: i see your dilema.
gary: got a lot of work here to cross referance things
hyicenter: gotcha.
gary: thats what i was gettin at
hyicenter: well, if ya willing to show the members that you're trying to make good here, I'm sure they will appreciate it and the time that it takes.
i'll let them know any how.
gary: it will take weeks of going thru printed out paper to do this and do it correct
gary: i will try to get it done for them just so they dont take everthing out on me
hyicenter: ok, well, see if you can just get the downloaded reports together for paypal and egold yeah... the cross referrancing can be done another time, cos I wouldn't expect you to do this all through the xmas period.
gary: as it really isnt my fault ###### w**ker hackers
gary: i heard maximum surf got hit also i sent them a email about how to lock down there admin and they fixed it and he still got back in
gary: thois guy is good he must have a crew
hyicenter: how about the intgold too?
hyicenter: history
gary: i can download it also but it wont help i wassent paying out with it
gary: i would owe everoone that used it accourding to the printout
gary: and some of them got double paid last month and didnt send it back either
gary: becouse of the changeover and they were in profit big time
gary: thats why i said this is a mess and will take weeks to fix
hyicenter: you never at any time paid a person into intgold?
gary: yes and the ones i paid were already in profit and they got paid twice in oct both egold and intgold and didnt send back the double payments
gary: there payouts are recorded in the egold printouts when i do them
hyicenter: no worries.
gary: now you know why its a mess
gary: dang intgold sucks bigger time than paypal
gary: and there was only about 40 or less members using intgold
gary: i will get all the reports and do all the cross cancelling to figure it all out but remember intgold dont show the uses id
gary: only egold and paypal does
gary: and some of them paid in with intgold and got paid out with paypal or egold also
gary: it will take some time but i will get it all figured out
gary: single site processor is the way to go
hyicenter: well, don't worry about all this ok. If you wanted to naff off you would of done it ages ago. A lot of members can see what effort you put into making site run as best as you could, etc. I'm sure, bar a few (which you shoulnd't listen to any way, most of them are ********s and don't know what they are talking about) think you're ok too, and some others will just reserve judgement and consider it as one of them things and count it as a loss.
So if you can get those reports downloaded for now, and work on them over the new year, as I say my fx system wont be ready into the new year any way as there's still some testing to do.
hyicenter: cool. What you don't get sorted out by the time the system is ready, I guess can be worked on at another time. And what you have there processed. and confirmed back from members, and your verifications of who is due X amount back, can be put ahead into trade. As each month goes by, process the next lot, best off doing it in stages, rather than doing it all at once.
gary: ok
gary: well i need a bite to munch on be back after a while
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